Sad day for USA

[Nicky G]

It is a sad day for America. Obama’s campaign revolved around glossy marketing, hype and cheesy sound bytes, made easier by the fact that 50 years of Gramscian subversion has made most young people highly malleable to the mostly cynical language of good causes and empty promises of easy salvation / quick fixes.

What I’ve found even more distasteful is the image and personality cult surrounding Obama, which would make Stalin himself proud. It also doesn’t make for a level playing field when a heavily compromised media and Hollywood relentlessly encourages this cult of personality. Looking at some of the hysterical crowds in the US today, celebrating the victory of their Messiah, I seriously doubt that Jesus Himself would be such a big draw if He returned tomorrow.

Mich the Tester
This time, at last, they’ve chosen the one with the brains to string together a sentence.

They've chosen who the monied, liberal, "useful idiot" media wanted them to.

[Nicky G]

gingerjedi
George H W Bush elected = War in Iraq
Bill Clinton elected = 10 years of relative peace by American standards
George W Bush elected = War in Iraq

Yes, Little Timmy's all over the world are celebrating around the campfire, preparing for the long anticipated 1000 years of peace (goo goo) and an end to all wars. This is the dismal, dismal mentality that got Obama elected. I mean, how dare Bush wage two minor wars against a terrorist regime and a mass murdering dictator whilst you were watching The X Factor! HOW DARE HE!

The election of a radical like Obama by such a margin proves that the average American is in the Spiritual and intellectual pit, living in an unreality.

[Bagpuss]

Is it a Full Moon tonight?

[xoggoth]

What a very sane bunch you are on here.

Not a closet Muslim or black racist as some would have it, not a saviour who will significantly improve the lot of America's blacks or solve the world's problems, just an empty vessel. Three years on there will be a lot of pointless PC crap, more money wasted in welfare, many very relieved people and even more very disappointed ones.

His speeches are just so full of utter meaningless carp it is hard to know what to pick out. Take tonight's drivel, to paraphrase "It isn't our might of arms that makes us great or our wealth, it's our ideas" No it isn't, what makes the US great is its military might and its wealth, if that other stuff mattered most the world would probably be led by Switzerland.

What a great world it would be if there was less emotional response to words, if people would only hear them and ask, "what the hell does that mean?" or "how exactly does the speaker intend to achieve that marvellous sounding aspiration?" or "sounds great but it isn't true or makes no sense at all"

[EternalOptimist]

What a very sane bunch you are on here.

Not a closet Muslim or black racist as some would have it, not a saviour who will significantly improve the lot of America's blacks or solve the world's problems, just an empty vessel. Three years on there will be a lot of pointless PC crap, more money wasted in welfare, many very relieved people and even more very disappointed ones.

His speeches are just so full of utter meaningless carp it is hard to know what to pick out. Take tonight's drivel, to paraphrase "It isn't our might of arms that makes us great or our wealth, it's our ideas" No it isn't, what makes the US great is its military might and its wealth, if that other stuff mattered most the world would probably be led by Switzerland.

What a great world it would be if there was less emotional response to words, if people would only hear them and ask, "what the hell does that mean?" or "how exactly does the speaker intend to achieve that marvellous sounding aspiration?" or "sounds great but it isn't true or makes no sense at all"

Yeah but its nothing new. The Greeks, Romans , and probably lots more, got led up and down the garden path by Orators, Sophists and patriots.

[Stan.goodvibes]

I mean, how dare Bush wage two minor wars against a terrorist regime and a mass murdering dictator whilst you were watching The X Factor! HOW DARE HE!

Um, sorry? 2 MINOR wars??? tell that to the people of Iraq. Bush lied about the WoMD, invaded a sovereign country, murdered hundreds of thousands of its citizens, then killed its leader.

All so him and Dick (head) Cheney could pass on the lucrative oil contracts to companies they were shareholders in then hand over huge weapons contracts to Haliburton (another Dick Cheney co.) so they could hire mercs to murder *more* arabs.

If anyone deserves to be tried for war crimes its Bush. I'm not even going to start in on Guantanamo, the worlds most illegal torture centre.

Not surprising then that Bush is already being reviled as the one of the worst (if not THE worst) president in US history.

[Stan.goodvibes]

It is I seriously doubt that Jesus Himself would be such a big draw if He returned tomorrow.

OK look, the planet was not 'created' 10,000 years ago, more like billions of years ago by natural forces occuring in the universe.

Dinosaurs are not a test from God, nor did they walk on the planet in the last 10,000 years with man (as Sarah Palin beleives).

Jesus was a very clued up guy who re-interpreted universal truths that were known before he arrived. Unfortunatly some less clever men decided to make a rather strange religion out of it. He is not coming back. Ever.

Clear enough for you?

[cailin maith]

OK look, the planet was not 'created' 10,000 years ago, more like billions of years ago by natural forces occuring in the universe.

Dinosaurs are not a test from God, nor did they walk on the planet in the last 10,000 years with man (as Sarah Palin beleives).

Jesus was a very clued up guy who re-interpreted universal truths that were known before he arrived. Unfortunatly some less clever men decided to make a rather strange religion out of it. He is not coming back. Ever.

Clear enough for you?

Ah crap.... so the nuns were wasting their time teaching me all that malarkey? Feck!

[Churchill]

Ah crap.... so the nuns were wasting their time teaching me all that malarkey? flip!

Yeah, but the other stuff you learned at the convent is great!

[Paddy]

Yep, even with an Irish Passport, I don't need a Visa

You will still get finger-printed on arrival.