whine whinge whinge

[WageSlave]

Rebecca, are they civil servants? I thought they were 'special advisors'?

[ahardy66]

Dim,
fade the trend and move to Iraq

During the night, gunmen killed 17 people in the nearby town of Taji after dragging them from their homes and shooting them in the street outside.

[DimPrawn]

I believe petrol is pretty cheap out there. Might be worth the risk.

[Bagpuss]

As Milan pointed out it's far simpler and an all round better plan to leave this place to the Chavs, Pikeys and bleeding heart lefties and just go live somewhere else. Which I'm working on.

What will you do when the locals start protesting about all the bloody imigrants that the looney left government have let in? you know the ones who can't even be bothered to learn the language! The ones who just want to set up their own little communities.

[Not So Wise]

leaving the country sounds like a good idea, but you need to find somewhere where you won't be remotely bothered by anything going on, i.e. politics and tax will get you in any developed country, and poverty, coups and disasters will get you in the rest of the world.

Simple, go to a developed country where you don't speak the local lingo, as you cannot speak the language to complain about local politics or tax's you generally find you cannot give a damn.

So instead you sit all day with your fellow expats and complain about everything like service and meats being better "back home"

[AlfredJPruffock]

The older I get, the more appropriate that song becomes...

How very true ZG , speaking of getting Older ....


And then one day you find, ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun

The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death

[sunnysan]

Pros and cons

Ok leaving england everybody....here is a list of my pros and cons

South Africa
Pros: Great weather, cheap houses, unparrelled lifestyle if you have the dosh, emerging growing economy, goos macro economic policies

Cons: Far away, Rampant crime (security orientated lifestyle), cr"p if you have no money zero social support, not that many jobs(geared to own business and euntrapaneurship), No viable state healthcare, corrupt civil service, even more corrupt police. If you (As a white boy) get caught drunk driving and have to spend a night in the cells, you have a good chance of getting killed.

Western Europe (Obvious variations based on country)
Pros: Clean, Good healthcare, family orientated life style, comparable salaries. Nicer weather
Cons: Cultural\language differences which may cause work and social difficulties, high taxes

Eastern Europe
Pro: Cheap, Lots of space, nice countryside
Cons: Institutionally corrupt, no guarentee for respect of your human rights, large influence of organized crime on business and social aspects of life. Dreary cities, underdeveloped job markets, bigger social/language hurdles. Freezing winters.

Scandinavia
Cue Threaded

USA
Pros: Arguably better lifestyle, bigger houses, less cultural hurdles
Cons: Fundemental Christian rightwing government rivalling the Taliban in its extremism

Oz/Nz
Pros: Good weather, great lifestyle, less cultural/langauge hurdles, great beaches/mountains, fair job markets.
Cons : Very far away.




Anybody add anythign else? Be interested to see pros and cons through the eyes of other people

[DimPrawn]

Cyprus

Pros : Only 4.5 hrs away. Low taxes. In EU but takes no notice of all the bulltulip red tape. Great climate. Strong expat community. English widely spoken. Drive on the left. Good health care. Low crime and friendly family oriented lifestyle. Locals generally friendly. Relatively stable politically.

Cons : Not great employment prospects. Can lack the excitement/choice of the UK. Some Greek style bureaucracy. Frigging hot in mid summer. Divided island (turks in the North).

[WageSlave]

I disagree about East European cities being dreary. Some are, but some are extremely beautiful. Been to Peckham recently?

South Africa
Cons: Too many darkies.

[AlfredJPruffock]

Obviously you havent been to Sofia Bulgaria, the Paris of the East with its wonderful boulevards,great food and wine not to mention the pretty women, a gem of a city.