The Osbourne scandal

[Pickle2]

Are you suggesting I earned my money dishonestly?
That is libel and I will prosecute the matter to my full legal ability, unless you withdraw the allegation now.

I think he was referring to the "millions or billions" bit...

[AtW]

Are you suggesting I earned my money dishonestly?

Do you have billions of pounds? Or millions?

That is libel and I will prosecute the matter to my full legal ability, unless you withdraw the allegation now.

Change your lawyer. For starters it can't be libel since it a generic statement of my view on the matter, the subject of discussion is not you in any case.

Secondly even if it was you I was referring to, then nobody knows your real name here, you are just a on the bottom of this forum, actual legal practice in the country suggests that libel is not possible in this case at all.

Now even if we knew your real name and I referred to you by it or linking to your page with your name, even then I think it would not be libel because in order to pursue libel case you need to have a good reputation and/or standing in the first place, I don't think you have either.

[The Lone Gunman]

Do you have billions of pounds? Or millions?



Change your lawyer. For starters it can't be libel since it a generic statement of my view on the matter, the subject of discussion is not you in any case.

Secondly even if it was you I was referring to, then nobody knows your real name here, you are just a on the bottom of this forum, actual legal practice in the country suggests that libel is not possible in this case at all.

Now even if we knew your real name and I referred to you by it or linking to your page with your name, even then I think it would not be libel because in order to pursue libel case you need to have a good reputation and/or standing in the first place, I don't think you have either.

You have to be careful. You may not know him, but others might. He may have a good rep that he relies on. Defaming him could damage that rep.
Unlikely that it would as you do not actually know him and are therefore incapable of knowing if he is honest or not in which case you should STFU.

[AtW]

You have to be careful. You may not know him, but others might. He may have a good rep that he relies on. Defaming him could damage that rep.

Let's assume for the moment that sasguru stands for some specific well known person. Where exactly did I defame him?

Unlikely that it would as you do not actually know him and are therefore incapable of knowing if he is honest or not in which case you should STFU.

Indeed, and where exactly did I say that he has earned dishonestly his billions or millions? He was not even subject of discussion here - he certainly got no billions (of GBP at least), and I doubt millions. So in court he'd first have to prove that he satisfies that criterion, otherwise I am afraid it would be him who'd have to STFU.

[The Lone Gunman]

It's always less likely to have millions or billions if you actually trying to earn them honestly. Not something that is a factor for you, but it is for me.

This bit here suggests that you think SAS earns his money (no matter how much) dishonestly!

Improve your English or STFU.

[Moscow Mule]

Do you have billions of pounds? Or millions?



Change your lawyer. For starters it can't be libel since it a generic statement of my view on the matter, the subject of discussion is not you in any case.

Secondly even if it was you I was referring to, then nobody knows your real name here, you are just a on the bottom of this forum, actual legal practice in the country suggests that libel is not possible in this case at all.

Now even if we knew your real name and I referred to you by it or linking to your page with your name, even then I think it would not be libel because in order to pursue libel case you need to have a good reputation and/or standing in the first place, I don't think you have either.

OMG, a witty reposte. Well done AtW - A First!!!

And as for Russian oligarchs have you read the exile.ru article (can't remember the author) on why most of them are Jews - interesting reading which basically says

The Jews were on the shady side (grey economy) of communist Russia because they were marginalised by the Kremlin.
Since they were a bit shady, when everything became de-regulated they were best placed to take advantage.

[expat]

Is it possible to libel a user name?

[AtW]

This bit here suggests that you think SAS earns his money (no matter how much) dishonestly!

This is what I said:

"It's always less likely to have millions or billions if you actually trying to earn them honestly. Not something that is a factor for you, but it is for me."

So you want to try to go to court with libel claim on the basis of these 2 sentences from a non-native English speaker, something that was known to the person in question?

That was obviously meant as a generic statement of my view that earnngs lots of money to the tune of billions is much harder than if you do it honestly. I was not aware if sas had billions or even millions. When I used word "you" I meant it as "one".

Now then I said it's not a factor for sasguru which is my view based on his character as presented on this board, should this have gone to court his postings would need to be taken into account, whether sas guru himself earned millions dishonestly or not I have no idea, I just think he'd deal with a billionaire guy (not sasguru obviously) who in my view certainly did not earn his money honestly because for sas guru (and Osborne apparently) the way how the money were earned by the counter party is not a factor in my view.

You want to sue me on the basis of that? How about you try it? Unlike you or sas I have known person behind the nick, so legal papers can actually be served - if they do, then I will defend in court and I will certainly win, there won't be any settlements because I would certainly love to make an example of someone who files frivolous lawsuits. Given sas's threat he is one of those peopel. Or more likely he is a bulltuliper - now go on, I dare you to sue me for "defaming" you (sasguru) by alleging that you are a bull that tulips - just remember it's not libel if its true

Improve your English or STFU.

I think you should moderate your language.

[The Lone Gunman]

Is it possible to libel a user name?

I think not unless that person is well known by that name.
Any one of us could be very famous and our friends could know our handles (some of mine do). In that case the defamation is real enough as could be the damage caused.

[AtW]

Is it possible to libel a user name?

No. Only if there is info provided linking that user-name to specific person, or it is well known who is the person behind that user name. And even that might not be sufficient to satisfy libel laws of this country.