UK PÖLICE STATE : centuries of freedom broken

[sappatz]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...Macdonald.html

[BrilloPad]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...Macdonald.html

Will this stop Big Brother being broadcast and the daily mail being published or Manchester Rovers playing?

No?

Well who cares then.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Will this stop Big Brother being broadcast and the daily mail being published or Manchester Rovers playing?

No?

Well who cares then.

I do. But I see your point.

[TykeMerc]

Interesting article, quite a bit of sense to it.

I was surprised to read that there are now 4.2 million CCTV cameras in the UK, does that include the ones in shops etc?

[Board Game Geek]

I've said it before, but it needs repeating.

A database of this size and enormity will collect several millions of pieces of information every DAY. Even that may be a severe understimate, when you consider the population of the UK (60 million ?), and how many have a mobile phone, and how many use the internet every day, for work or for pleasure.

I think we are talking tens of millions of messages, in a wide variety of mediums, EVERY SINGLE DAY.

After automatic data scrubbing and analysis of these messages, lets just suppose a few hundred thousand need deeper human analysis.

Where is the proposed manpower to achieve this ? You need highly-trained staff to assess such messages, and each one may require even more study and cross-checking.

Within 24 hours, before the next day's hundred thousand messages arrive in your "In Box".

This won't be QUALITY information gathering and analysis, it will be QUANTITY, and prone to serious error and flaw.

And it won't stop 3 determined people meeting in park, discussing a bomb plot, arranging a date, and doing the deed.

[TimberWolf]

Ah well, you could always bypass the phone and use the Internet. They can't regulate that.

Oh hang on UK.gov says: Regulate the internet

[Board Game Geek]

Isn't it ironic that the reason the government want to snoop on all aspects of our lives is because they don't trust us ?

Shouldn't it be the other way around ?

[TykeMerc]

BGG and Timberwolf have hit the nail squarely on the head, the sheer quantity of emails, mobile and landline calls and website activity is so colossal that monitoring in anything like a meaningful fashion is impractical.

The Ministers that feel they're making themselves look like hard cases are seriously deluding themselves, that or they've fallen for Hollywood hype that a few listening stations can pick out critical info from the massive data streams off a few keywords typed on a terminal.

It wouldn't be like searching for a needle in a haystack, it would be like searching for one specific needle in a pile of identical needles the size of Siberia.

[bodnobal]

You guys do realise that todays military intelligence ARE running quantum computers. Go look on google, wikipedia for Quantum Entanglement. It's been known for 70 years. In 50 years time we'll all get to use it on our latest Xbox 36000.

[NetwkSupport]

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You guys do realise that todays military intelligence ARE running quantum computers. Go look on google, wikipedia for Quantum Entanglement. It's been known for 70 years. In 50 years time we'll all get to use it on our latest Xbox 36000.

A "friend" of mine is tracing someone at the moment and has enlisted help from a security expert who has pulled out phone conversations from 7 years ago, i've listened to them they do exist. Everything is already being monitored, the law they are trying to pass just allows them to use this data with more scope.

Im actually suprised that anyone here REALLY thought that everything was un-monitored anyway, come on your all clever people!!