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    #21
    Indian company creates 600 UK jobs

    Outsourcing goes full circle

    Indian technology company HCL has outsourced 600 contact centre jobs to Belfast with the support of a £4.68m grant from Invest Northern Ireland, the region's economic development organisation.

    The deal was announced early this morning by the prime minister, who is currently visiting India. He said that the UK could be an important base for Asian companies wanting to expand their business into the EU.

    Shiv Nadar, chairman and CEO HCL Technologies, said that his company had initially invested in Northern Ireland through a partnership with BT. He described that move as "an act of faith".

    HCL is one of the top ten private employers in Northern Ireland, with a staff of nearly 2,000 people. The majority (1,720) are based in Belfast with 220 more in Armagh. ®

    From The Register

    As I said everyone wins
    Sola gratia

    Sola fide

    Soli Deo gloria

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      #22
      "It is the usual 1984 "four legs good" stufff we hear continually, "outsourcing is good, immigration is good, outsourcing is good..."

      That's Animal Farm - not the pervy version!

      Outsourcing can have its benefits. On the recent Bank Holiday I had to call AOL to report a fault. Twice I got routed to India and spoke to two very helpful people who were tatally unable to help me with the problem but managed to spin the whole process out for over an hour. Had this call centre not been outsourced then no doubt I would have probably been routed through to Scotland, Wales or Goerdie Land where the call centre staff would no doubt be equally unable to help me but harder to understand.
      Rule Number 1 - Assuming that you have a valid contract in place always try to get your poo onto your timesheet, provided that the timesheet is valid for your current contract and covers the period of time that you are billing for.

      I preferred version 1!

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        #23
        Originally posted by Fleetwood
        What???? Are you questioning Tony's policies????
        You're a thought criminal,SS, and I sentence you to twenty years in a New Labour reeducation camp. So there.
        Fleety, in a way I'm glad you replaced that female avatar, because I was starting to fancy you, just as I have the hots for wendigo with his avatar.

        Guess I just have to come to terms with the fact that I have ginger tendencies.
        Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ here

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          #24
          Originally posted by sunnysan
          Can soemone please explain to me how this could possibly be of benefit to a country?
          I suppose it could be argued that it makes the outsourcing country more competitative than some other country that doesn't outsource or does so less.

          Not saying I necessarily agree with that, and even if true it may give only a temporary advantage but later cause even more problems on account of indigenous skill losses etc.
          Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ here

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            #25
            Originally posted by TonyEnglish
            "It is the usual 1984 "four legs good" stufff we hear continually, "outsourcing is good, immigration is good, outsourcing is good..."

            That's Animal Farm - not the pervy version!

            Outsourcing can have its benefits. On the recent Bank Holiday I had to call AOL to report a fault. Twice I got routed to India and spoke to two very helpful people who were tatally unable to help me with the problem but managed to spin the whole process out for over an hour. Had this call centre not been outsourced then no doubt I would have probably been routed through to Scotland, Wales or Goerdie Land where the call centre staff would no doubt be equally unable to help me but harder to understand.
            Timbo, AOL, FFS! Hang your head in shame boy!
            Oh Jesus - Disaster Management Ltd.
            You know you'll need us!

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              #26
              Oh yes. Animal Farm, 1984. Brain is malfunctioning in day due to unnutterable dullness of contract.

              That wendigo avatar is not that great. I much prefer kojak's lollipop sucky one. What on earth is that one CL has now? it appears to be a mosquito on a dog turd with a bloke peering round it. Also I had not noticed the eyes wandering on owl's before or that just down to too much vodka again?
              Last edited by xoggoth; 8 September 2005, 21:25.
              bloggoth

              If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
              John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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                #27
                Originally posted by xoggoth
                Also I had not noticed the eyes wandering on owl's before or that just down to too much vodka again?
                Thyroid related orbitopathy, dear chap, thyroid related orbitopathy...
                If you think my attitude stinks, you should smell my fingers.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by xoggoth
                  Oh yes. Animal Farm, 1984. Brain is malfunctioning in day due to unnutterable dullness of contract.

                  That wendigo avatar is not that great. I much prefer kojak's lollipop sucky one. What on earth is that one CL has now? it appears to be a mosquito on a dog turd with a bloke peering round it. Also I had not noticed the eyes wandering on owl's before or that just down to too much vodka again?
                  Yes Jackos lollipop sucky thing is good and she's even a bird which makes it even more satisfying. Have to admit to liking Sandy's batgirl type avatar even though she is a strapping 400lb muscle bound biker named Dave.

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                    #29
                    Shouldn't that be "talking Bollocks"

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                      #30
                      [QUOTE=GiGo
                      He gave the example of LogicaCMG, a British-Dutch information technology company, which recently won a contract to build Real Time Gross Settlement systems for India's central bank. Several years ago, LogicaCMG shifted some of its work to Bangalore, India's technology hub, where it now employs nearly 2,000 engineers. Johnson argued the company would not have won the central bank deal without its base in Bangalore.[/QUOTE]

                      From personal experience; as UK-based companies are forced to compete with Offshore companies there are pressures on how much UK-based staff can be paid because of the difference between UK & Indian wages. And we are currently being told at the forementioned company "we need to keep our staff affordable because of increasing competition"

                      Roughly equates to "you get nothing, management get everything" and company gets 48% increase in profits

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