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dealing with hostile permies?
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Originally posted by Andy2 View PostThe downside will be more contractors in the marketOriginally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Remember it is best to always tell them to go contracting if they have the
a) Skills
b) Commitment
c) Work Ethic
d) Balls
That normally resides in some old crap about having the skills, but having a family/resposibilities and needing to know where their money is coming from each month.
That normally shuts them up.What happens in General, stays in General.You know what they say about assumptions!Comment
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Originally posted by MarillionFan View PostThat normally resides in some old crap about having the skills, but having a family/resposibilities and needing to know where their money is coming from each month.
One permie I worked with who said that was being made redundant, so really he had nothing to lose by trying to get a contract instead of a permie job. He'd had done better than me to be honest, because he had a wider more in demand skillset, but he wouldn't listen and just went for permie roles.Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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Originally posted by VectraMan View Post"I would, but I have a mortgage to pay".
One permie I worked with who said that was being made redundant, so really he had nothing to lose by trying to get a contract instead of a permie job. He'd had done better than me to be honest, because he had a wider more in demand skillset, but he wouldn't listen and just went for permie roles.What happens in General, stays in General.You know what they say about assumptions!Comment
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Its partly something to do with permies feeling that they have somehow failed in life and they want you to attain the same level of failure by ultimately ousting you, whereas in reality you haven't 'really' done that much better than them.
Very astute observation - as Robert Zimmerman said
While one who sings with his tongue on fire
Gargles in the rat race choir
Bent out of shape from society's pliers
Cares not to come up any higher
But rather get you down in the hole
That he's in.
And from the same ditty
For them that must obey authority
That they do not respect in any degree
Who despise their jobs, their destinies
Speak jealously of them that are free
Cultivate their flowers to be
Nothing more than something
They invest in.Comment
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Originally posted by AlfredJPruffock View PostWho despise their jobs, their destiniesCooking doesn't get tougher than this.Comment
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What they don't appreciate is that whilst they're only getting a 2% pay rise contractors are suffering 30% drops in rate, I was talking to one permy who thought that was just as we've always earnt more than them.
The trouble is they only ever see the bottom line and never consider the considerable costs in terms of travel training and bench time that we have to take into consideration let alone the risks.
It makes me laugh when their excuse to stay permie is the mortgage, whilst they're earning just enough to keep a roof over their heads for the next 25 years they could have it paid off in 5.Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave JohnsonComment
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Originally posted by gingerjedi View PostThe trouble is they only ever see the bottom line and never consider the considerable costs in terms of travel training and bench time that we have to take into consideration let alone the risks.Comment
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