Britain is very leftie liberal

[contractor79]

we work hardest, we pay fortune for defence, then they get to tell us what to do

Brits are actually quite stupid to put up with this, concentrate less on calling Bush stupid and look closer to home

[DodgyAgent]

On the working time, the sad fact is that the British need to work more hours than the French or the Germans to achieve the same level of GNP/head, i.e. to cover up lower productivity.

As for unemployment, I'd hazard a guess that you don't believe the NL figures any more than I do.

And I am not one of the "sad little expats who are clearly not convinced that they have done the right thing by moving abroad": I live in the UK and would dearly love to work in it too.

Thatcher did a one-time fix on a very sick economy, and helped it to jump back to something like where it should have been. But that is not a long-term recipe, and the EU for all its faults is where we belong, now.

At least in the Uk we can work (or used to) whatever hours we wanted.
Just because unemployment figures dont suit your argument doesnt make them wrong.
The Uk has had far more job openings than any of the other big EU economies.

Thatchers legacy of free markets, denationalisation, simplified tax is not a long term recipe simply because the socialists are returning the Uk back to the 60s/70s.

I ask what you mean by the UK being "where it should have been" what do you mean by this?is this the same as saying that the Iraqi, or Georgian or Rawandan economies are not "where they should be".

There is no stable economic society anywhere, economies rise and fall according to how they are managed. You seem to suggest that there is some sort of underlying level that they wont fall below? There is no reason why the Uk economy could not become like Burma's economy if it is not managed properly.

This is a mistake that many economies (Germany especially) make. They go through a period of boom and then the bloodsuckers (usually socialists) get into power and suck the life out of it with rules, regulations high taxes and interference. Brussels simply adds another tier of bloodsuckers to our own elected lot.

[DodgyAgent]

we work hardest, we pay fortune for defence, then they get to tell us what to do

Brits are actually quite stupid to put up with this, concentrate less on calling Bush stupid and look closer to home

What Nationality are you?

[expat]

At least in the Uk we can work (or used to) whatever hours we wanted.
Just because unemployment figures dont suit your argument doesnt make them wrong.
The Uk has had far more job openings than any of the other big EU economies.

Job openings? Expert in Siebel EIM, Oracle PL/SQL, Back-end config, Data Migration, Batch and Data Load tuning. Can bring my rate down to £600/d, OK rock-bottom £550/d.

What do you have? In NL, Germany, and CH I have loads of choice for more than that plus expenses. The UK job market is obviously so advanced that it has no place for that kind of stuff, right?

[contractor79]

Thatchers legacy of free markets, denationalisation, simplified tax is not a long term recipe simply because the socialists are returning the Uk back to the 60s/70s.
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yes, with EU help
when she got stabbed in the back that was the end of UK

[DodgyAgent]

Job openings? Expert in Siebel EIM, Oracle PL/SQL, Back-end config, Data Migration, Batch and Data Load tuning. Can bring my rate down to £600/d, OK rock-bottom £550/d.

What do you have? In NL, Germany, and CH I have loads of choice for more than that plus expenses. The UK job market is obviously so advanced that it has no place for that kind of stuff, right?

I am sure there are exceptions to rules everywhere.

[DodgyAgent]

yes, with EU help
when she got stabbed in the back that was the end of UK

Where are you from?

[expat]

I am sure there are exceptions to rules everywhere.

OK, that's where it hurts me because I'd like to work at home but all I can find is elsewhere, and yet that without any trouble.

But I doubt if that's an exception. File up the steps to the Lufthansa flight on Monday morning, with a laptop and a week's clothes, and you'll be one of many. Check out the other end in Frankfurt, you won't see many Germans heading off to the UK for their week's work.

Frankly I don't believe it's any different for any kind of work, either. Our economy isn't working. PS and Cameron doesn't know how to fix it either.

[DodgyAgent]

OK, that's where it hurts me because I'd like to work at home but all I can find is elsewhere, and yet that without any trouble.

But I doubt if that's an exception. File up the steps to the Lufthansa flight on Monday morning, with a laptop and a week's clothes, and you'll be one of many. Check out the other end in Frankfurt, you won't see many Germans heading off to the UK for their week's work.

Frankly I don't believe it's any different for any kind of work, either. Our economy isn't working. PS and Cameron doesn't know how to fix it either.

The uK still has more job opportunities than Germany, the Uk is a much larger IT contractor market than Germany's and the German economy has been in the doldrums far longer than the Uks has. Germany is also in hoc with Russian energy supplies more than the Uk, and Lufthansa is about to be taken obver by the British anyway.. and all this without the Uk being in the Euro.

[Incognito]

I reflect on that every Monday morning, as I file up the steps to the plane, with all the other guys with laptop bags, off to work in some other EU country. When you get to Frankfurt or Amsterdam, you don't see corresponding quues of knowledge workers heading the other way to find work.

You've obviously never flown from London City on a Monday morning or left it on a Friday afternoon then. Can't hear yourself think for the bloody cacophony of foreign honking. Are they that thick to not realise we made English bloody simple, I mean the yanks can sort of manage it.