Ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere?

[NotAllThere]

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But I don't buy organised religion.

Me either. No matter how hard it is sold. And looking at things critically, I don't think the Jesus of the bible did either... which probably shows that organised religionists don't even believe there own scriptures.

[ThomasSoerensen]

Me either. No matter how hard it is sold. And looking at things critically, I don't think the Jesus of the bible did either... which probably shows that organised religionists don't even believe there own scriptures.

These scriptures are instruments of control. Of course the Romans did not believe them.

Did George W. Bush believe Saddam has weapons of mass destruction and was about to attach America with them. I don't think so.

It is a power thing.

[Taita]

We are uncivilised

Scoffing during business meetings now is a countrywide council tradition. Somehow the wallies got it into their heads that that is what 'real' business people do!!!! Not in my 'real business' world it isn't!

[sasguru]

Despite the fact that scientific studies have shown that on balance, religion does more good than evil in society (I'll get the reference for that this evening). And that atheistic societies have not exactly been havens of peace and happiness. ( Admittedly that may be to do with communism rather than atheism per se ).

Occams razor is an interesting point. It's a way of choosing between alternatives. But it doesn't mean that the simplest is in fact true. Newtons theory of gravitation is much simpler than Einsteins. ( I've also thought that "God made it so" is a very simple theory, even though it's a bad one!)

( I hate fundamentalism - I keep wanting to spell it fundementalism ).

Hmmm. I would argue that most rich Western European countries are atheist in practice - in the practical way that most people may have some vague idea of believing in God but would not call themselves religious. And in spite of all the moaning these are the probably the happiest countries on the planet.

Occams Razor would suggest that evolution is a better theory of why we are here than Creationism in it's simple sense.

But I agree there is a question of why scientific and mathematical rules are as elegant as they are.

[DimPrawn]

Hmmm. I would argue that most rich Western European countries are atheist in practice - in the practical way that most people may have some vague idea of believing in God but would not call themselves religious. And in spite of all the moaning these are the probably the happiest countries on the planet.

Occams Razor would suggest that evolution is a better theory of why we are here than Creationism in it's simple sense.

But I agree there is a question of why scientific and mathematical rules are as elegant as they are.

Did god invent CO2?

[sasguru]

Did god invent CO2?

No but the fact that someone as imperfect as you exists is proof of the mistakes of biological evolution.

[ThomasSoerensen]

Did god invent CO2?

yes , right after he invented SUV's and global warming

[contractor79]

How can it be a day when the sun and moon weren't created until day 4 (IIRC).

each day are called day, with evening and morning
light there from day 1

[NotAllThere]

So what's that light then?

[ThomasSoerensen]

each day are called day, with evening and morning
light there from day 1

please elaborate, I done get it. If sun and moon is created on day 4 then where does the light come from on day 1?