USA Presidential Race Suddenly Gets Interesting

[foritisme]

You not back in school yet ?

[Diver]

On the Mccain judgement note one thing it is clear. This person will make a decision solely to suit his campaign , before the interest of the whole nation. Appointing a politics inexperienced ex-beauty contester shows that his goal is to get the Hilary female supporters and shows that he barely cares about how fit-to-purpose the person is.

Republicans are supported by large oil interests. Vote Mccain = Vote more wars. How stupid do you have to be to get it you numskull ?

As does every other politician

[snaw]

Snaw, go check on the BBC's website


http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArti...04729375940845

Excuses at the ready!

Mailman

LOL, wow - pin your colors to the mast why don't you.

I kind of like McCain, I kind of like Obama. They've both got strong points, and weak points. What I hate is this kind of detestable, attack based US politics - which the American right especially seem very good at.

You're falling for it hook line and sinker MailMan - it's the same mob who swiftboated John Kerry, in the most detestable way possible, the same mob who did the same to McCain when he was going against Bush in his first election.

here's a good rebuttal, from the Mayor of Chicago:

There are a lot of reasons that Americans are angry about Washington politics. And one more example is the way Senator Obama's opponents are playing guilt-by-association, tarring him because he happens to know Bill Ayers.


I also know Bill Ayders. He worked with me in shaping our now nationally-renowne school reform program. He is a nationally-recognized distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois/Chicago and a valued member of the Chicago community.

I don't condone what he did 40 years ago but I remember that period well. It was a difficult time, but those days are long over. I believe we have too many challenges in Chicago and our country to keep re-fighting 40 year old battles.

BTW Barak Obama was 8 when Ayers was a badun - you really think he's a terrorist in disguise? FFS, get your own brain MM.

[snaw]

OMG, shock horror, she has a daughter who really should have listened to mummy and has probably for the last 5 months been wishing she had!

I think this one would be a REAL problem for McCain and co IF the Palins had had an abortion.


There is nothing dodgy about the sacking. The geezer who got the arse is hired and fired solely at the discretion of the Gov. He failed to carry out his duty to dismiss a tropper who threatened to kill, drove drunk and tasered a 10yo so his position was outsourced.


Not forgetting that at the same time Obammasaiah was high on pot and most likely doing other, ahem, harder substances (that we just dont know about yet0.


As opposed to be close to a known terrorist who carried out bombings in America, yeah, she is in real trouble!



Maybe the only question that needs to be asked is, why is Obama getting such a free ride from the MSM?

Mailman

You totally missed the point on this, none of them are bad in themselves imo, it wasn't about what she, or her family has done - it was about McCains judgement, and apprent lack of vetting for his VP, who could easily one day become the president of the USA, and how it could backfire on him.

You really are a complete moron MM. Honestly, most of the retards on this board are trolls, you're the real deal and as thick as mince.

[Mailman]

BTW Barak Obama was 8 when Ayers was a badun - you really think he's a terrorist in disguise? FFS, get your own brain MM.

hahahahaha...thought you'd fall for this

The fact he was 8 at the times of the murders is neither here nor there.

What is troubling is that at first "The One" lied about how he knew the terrorist The fact he chaired one of his charities, can not account for over $100million laundered through the charity he chaired, can not explain how he became the chair of that charity other than at the direct command of the terrorist...all points to someone with nearly as dodgy a past as you dumb

And lets not forget some of the other "friends" Obama has...then again, I guess it really is true, you can tell the kind of person by the company they keep

Mailman

[Mailman]

and apprent lack of vetting for his VP, who could easily one day become the president of the USA, and how it could backfire on him

Except...it doesnt look like it has backfired on him...seems the only place its backfired is here in good old blighty

and if Im not mistaken, you dont get to vote in the presidential elections do you?

Mailman

[Mailman]

Appointing a politics inexperienced ex-beauty contester...

Could you please post what experience Obama has...and remember, he is the one actually running for the presidency, not the VP.

And by inexperienced, do you mean several terms as councillor, several terms as a mayor, 2 years as Governor, several years chairing various resource boards, not to mention controlling the national guard...and yet you claim she has no experience?

So remind me again what experience Obama has, apart from chairing charities set up by terrorists and pandering to the currupt political machine that is chicago politics.

Mailman

[snaw]

hahahahaha...thought you'd fall for this

The fact he was 8 at the times of the murders is neither here nor there.

What is troubling is that at first "The One" lied about how he knew the terrorist The fact he chaired one of his charities, can not account for over $100million laundered through the charity he chaired, can not explain how he became the chair of that charity other than at the direct command of the terrorist...all points to someone with nearly as dodgy a past as you dumb

And lets not forget some of the other "friends" Obama has...then again, I guess it really is true, you can tell the kind of person by the company they keep

Mailman

Fall for what? Strikes me you're the one who's fell for it. Hook line and sinker, like I mentioned. You're just regurgitating stuff from the most right wing, despicable side of politics in the US (The left equally with the move on stuff can be as bad).

Tell me - where is all this smear being generated from - have a deeper think than simply repeating what you're reading.

You can't see through it for what it is, most of what I've read is guilt by association - if he was, he'd be getting crucified on fox news etc, but even they're not going with it.

Problem with you is you're too thick to tell the difference between a thread of commentary on US politics, and actually getting worked up over it. If McCain wins I can live with that, he'll be a hell of a lot better than Bush - of that I'm sure. Obama still has some blanks to fill in, time will tell.

[Mailman]

Hahahahaha...I just regurgiting right wing dribble?

Oh yeah, I guess that makes the dribble from kosboy and the mock outrage over the hottie with a bun in the oven acceptable?

The fact you keep banging on harder than a 17yo banging away at a hottie about the pregnancy shows you do have something vested in the Reps losing in November.

Yeah snaw, you showed me alright

Oh, and just in case you forgot what this was all about, here is some interesting reading for you to instantly dismiss as rightwing propoganda

http://royalsavage.wordpress.com/200...tical-warfare/

Mailman

[Likely]

Could you please post what experience Obama has...and remember, he is the one actually running for the presidency, not the VP.

And by inexperienced, do you mean several terms as councillor, several terms as a mayor, 2 years as Governor, several years chairing various resource boards, not to mention controlling the national guard...and yet you claim she has no experience?

So remind me again what experience Obama has, apart from chairing charities set up by terrorists and pandering to the corrupt political machine that is chicago politics.

Mailman

I don't have the time to find out what experience he s got or other candidates. However given the current choice and listening to the candidates intentions and views on the situation in America , I see a sober opinion vs a potential war criminal that is bringing simply more war.


I don't say Obama is the best candidate in the world it is simply the best given the choice .

The whole "inexperienced" game was started by Mccain because there is nothing else they can throw at Obama. I've heard Obama and I heard sober man capable of making decisions. Presidency is an acting postion. These guys hardly make most decisions but are reliant on a number of ad visors. It is not one man thingie.

Mccain is plain stupid. He doesn't hold a speech without reading a transcript , whereas Obama repeatedly is seen talking straight.

Why would you vote for someone who supported 95 % of Bushes decisions ?

I personally don't give a fack. It is the stupid Americans and soldiers that suffer the tyranny of big oil. I make my buks and I am happy. I am a first time home buyer and I am happy that prices are falling. I just find it necessary to rant on people's ignorance , lack of judgement and tolerance of media brainwashing. I don't care , I am simply happy how stupid most people are and how easily are misled by politicians.