Russia cutting off oil?

[serverlad]

whats with the all the russia bashing, after all its the americans who make the real trouble and i believe the americans are more dangerous than the russians. after all they are a fine one to talk after afganistan and Iraq.
missles at poland..reminds me of cuban missile crisis.
ask your self...wheres the major trouble in the world...are the americans involved? if they are ...you have your answer...arrogant and hypocryte americans.
Sure russians are no angels either..but they aint gonna let americans bully others or them....its like a contract pay up or u die.

[serverlad]

oh yeah miliband is a tw8t. who does he think he is. heheh

[AtW]

whats with the all the russia bashing, after all its the americans who make the real trouble

Like Americans use polonium to kill people or conduct genocide in their own country (Chechnya)?

Russia is turning rapidly into fascist country - in fact it is already as fascist as it can get, the only question now if it upgrades itself to a fully fledged nazi country that will start 3rd world war.

Those handful anti-missiles in Poland are not threatening strategically - both sides have nuclear submarines that can attack from very close points, and no technology would guarantee defence from hundreds of missiles launched at the same time - not now, not in 20 years.

Nobody was bashing Russia 10 years ago - thanks to Putin this all changed. No bloody wonder - killing people with polonium, genocide in Chechnya, giving nuclear technology to Iran and now demanding effective right to deal with former USSR republics anyway KGB scum wants, just where this will end?

Americans are not angels and they make mistakes, but Bush is not murdering opposition members and does not take over companies that finance opposition, american citizens also don't ask for polytical asylum in other countries - all of that has been happening in Russia for the last 5-7 years.

[serverlad]

dont americans and europe use urainuim shells for their tanks and artillery.
fair enough russia has had it problems but 10 years ago russias economy is at a rock bottom us and europe want the rest of the world to depend on them that is power and they are like children when they lose it.
but now russia is getting stronger economically and people dont like that.
the reason people left russia is becuase they couldnt live there no money.
who says capitalism is good too??? its indulgent and greedy.
dont forget the banks make all the rules.
facism to an extent is manageable but russia is coming out of 10 years of democracy after nearly 100 years of communism.

the usa can squeal all they like. i lived there for a good while..gung ho as hell. we are the biggest etc.
i just dont trust americans with foreign policy they push and push then one day they get slapped. look at 9/11. then europe gets caught up in the middle.
better go to aussie land in case we get nuked

mind you would the us bomb texas for trying to leave the usa. ....think about it.
double standards..cant be one way for the them and one way for the others.
kosovo serbia iraq afganistan.
I like putin though he doesnt go about like a gammy like bush or brown
hes a proper leader clever too. hes ex kgb but that doesnt mean he wants it back to it was before. he just wants russia to be strong and respected. havent seen much of respect to them lately...shown remarkable restraint in terms of the language thrown at them.
people complain when they are scared.


its all money at the end of the day tho. gosh im bored eh!!!

[AtW]

dont americans and europe use urainuim shells for their tanks and artillery.

Do you have any idea who used DU (thats DEPLETED uranium) rounds first? Hint - it was used during WW2.

but now russia is getting stronger economically and people dont like that.

China was getting stronger economically in the last 15-25 years, nobody minds so long as they don't fk everyone about - Russia just got rich because of high oil prices for mere 3-5 years, it is west who paid all that stuff - the smartest thing for Russia would have been to STFU and quietly rebuild the country and maybe afterwards demand anything.

FFS, its like if Germany would suddenly start demanding stuff 10-15 years after end of WW2.

I like putin though he doesnt go about like a gammy like bush or brown hes a proper leader clever too. hes ex kgb but that doesnt mean he wants it back to it was before.

You have no idea who he is. When he got elected first time (after mysterious explosions in Moscow and KGB agents were caught with explosives in another city) - he was not like he is today, he was quietly putting his people in place and only started showing his true colours in the last 2-3 years.

Of course he wants it back like it was - and he made it happen in Russia - people are afraid of KGB like they used to.

he just wants russia to be strong and respected. havent seen much of respect to them lately...shown remarkable restraint in terms of the language thrown at them.

LOL, he shown remarkable restraint? Look at deputy commander of General Staff of the army who said about nuclear conflict! The president (Putins puppet) said Russia is okay with new cold war, FFS, Putin uses the language of the street that only criminals use - you are clearly not up to date on what he says, just few days ago he said in interview to CNN (or some other foreign media) words to the effect that they (Russian army) kicked the teeth out of the aggressor - Georgia, nice words eh? He is a scum whose place is in jail, yet in country like Russia he managed to get to the top position, but he still behaves like punk from street.

Why do I bother explaining the obvious

[Iron Condor]

Putin comes up with some good stuff, here is quote from his recent CNN interview:

"Let's recall, for example, the interview with that 12-year-old girl and her aunt, who, as I understand, live in the United States and who witnessed the events in South Ossetia. The interviewer at one of the leading channels, Fox News, was interrupting her all the time. All the time, he interrupted her. As soon as he didn't like what she was saying, he started to interrupt her, he coughed, wheezed and screeched. All that remained for him to do was to soil his pants, in such a graphic way as to stop them. That's the only thing he didn't do, but, figuratively speaking, he was in that kind of state"

[serverlad]

so does bush , blair not deserve toget into jail?? killed more people than russia ever has done. its double standards man.

yes there is extremes on both sides but politically europe and usa has no right to comment on subjects like georgia.

we should never been in iraq or afganistan..

shoulda just shot the goverments if u wanted rid of them..iraq was a rich and beautiful country before usa got in. its a squalor now.

think about. every time usa gets its fingers int he pie...does the other country benefit??? nah. look at georgia...it was set up by usa. it made mc cain look a stronger candidate. americans are scared of russia. weak minds.

russia has a long way to go to being a properly developed country. but other countries arnt helping. u cant control other countries but work with them.

think about it. where is nato now. right up to the borders of russia. american arms in every one of them

how would usa like it if they put thier weapons in cuba or venzuala and mexico.....whooo.

I beleieve Putin is in control of russia not medevev but hes a good leader he leads by example by putting the right people in place he ensures proper growth of the country.

look at our own..look at the labour party. full of tw*ts they are meaner than the russians , ffs prescott punched a protester....

last time we had a strong leader was thatcher...until her own party ganged up on her. at least putin wont have that bother as long corruption doesnt happen unlike the labour party.

ah fook it i just think europe and usa needs to back off. and look at its self before whingeing.

never under estimate the power of the media too.

give russia another 10 years and it will be a better democracy if everyone else leaves them alone and work with them not against.

[AtW]

Putin comes up with some good stuff, here is quote from his recent CNN interview:

"Let's recall, for example, the interview with that 12-year-old girl and her aunt, who, as I understand, live in the United States and who witnessed the events in South Ossetia. The interviewer at one of the leading channels, Fox News, was interrupting her all the time.

Yes Mr Putin is very concerned about freedom of press in the USA - maybe he should answer for his own country where top opposition journalists were either killed or had to run away to claim political asylumes elsewhere.

Putin is a scum, as simple as this - he lies even when he tells the truth and frankly he does not do that often.

FFS, Putin carpet bombed Chechnya - tactical short range missiles were used on Grozny which had more destroyed buildings then Stalingrad in its time, just how the ***k can he have any right whatsoever to talk about genocide by other countries?

They lied about number of casualties - turns out around 50-60 were killed not 2000 claimed, that's definite now, more importantly just how the hell so many tanks and other equipment went in so quickly? That was only possible because they were ready and waiting for signal.

Frankly Hitler looked more persuasive and believeable when he annexed neighbour countries.

I just hope now his true colours are becoming clear to more people in Europe - sadly they must have gotten lots of paid KGB agents from Soviet times left in Germany and Italy, possibly France too - those guys were nobodies before but nowadays they occupy high posts. And that really brings to the fatal mistake the web did in 1991 - it should have arranged Nuremberg trials of the Communist Party and the KGB - purge all agents they had in foreign countries and today there would have been no Putin and other scumbags like him. Maybe you would not be posting here either

[AtW]

so does bush , blair not deserve toget into jail?? killed more people than russia ever has done.

Are you an idiot? Do you know how many people were killed by the Soviet regime? The count in many many millions - the only person who can compete with that is Hitler and even so if you factor in brainwashing of the Soviet regime over 70 years the cumulative effect is worse than Nazies.

think about it. where is nato now. right up to the borders of russia. american arms in every one of them

Bull. First of all most of US forces are moved towards Far East - the main base in Europe in Germany now is effectively big hospital.

Anybody looking at Iraq can see that the US or whole NATO simply have no land forces to occupy Russia - that's simply no possible - not enough troops period.

This conversation disgusts me - if can't see that Putin walks the same path of Hitler than you are either an idiot or just work for them.

[AtW]

give russia another 10 years and it will be a better democracy if everyone else leaves them alone and work with them not against.

You don't know ****.