Now the tories are attacking straight men

[NotAllThere]

Christian Theology obviously isn't your strong point is it Snaw? You'll have to source your argument from the New Testament. The OT law still applies, but rather in different ways.

The New Testament has things like:

"1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders"

[snaw]

Christian Theology obviously isn't your strong point is it Snaw. You'll have to source your argument from the New Testament.

So the anti-gay stuff is in the new testament as well?

[snaw]

And no, it's not a strong point - but wtf, I was attempting to point out that the bible takes a few views we find a bit odd. Cherry picking a few lines against homosexuals is a bit hypocritical.

Then again I personally find living your life according to the bible a bit odd.

[contractor79]

It also says that pride and hypocrisy are pretty bad too...

yes but two wrongs don't make a right

Or slavery, or adulterers etc.

If that's your line, then I assume you don't pick and choose, but instead agree with stoning disobedient children, adulterous wives and keeping slaves etc?

the morality of the Law is in-force
it's not pick and choose
Law was given to specific people at specific point in time for a specific purpose of bringing forth the Messiah to save the world

[snaw]

the morality of the Law is in-force it's not pick and choose

OK so all of it. Stoning disobedient kids, adulterous wives etc.

Or you talking UK law, where it's perfectly legal to be homosexual?

[NotAllThere]

The point is that Christian Theology as I understand it, is that you should consider everything in immediate context but also looking at all 66 books in the Bible as a whole - what is referred to as "the whole counsel of God". So debating these issues is somewhat more complex than simply isolated verses.

I've read much where Christians and non-Christians alike pick and choose to bolster their arguments. The annotated skeptics bible is a case in point. Though quite entertaining.

[contractor79]

OK so all of it. Stoning disobedient kids, adulterous wives etc.

Or you talking UK law, where it's perfectly legal to be homosexual?

only since the 1960s.

[snaw]

only since the 1960s.

Yeah, I blame the hippies. If I'd been around that is.

[NotAllThere]

An argument could run along the lines that, according to the Council of Jerusalem (Acts:15), gentile Christians must refrain from

a) Idolatry
b) Sexual immorality
c) Eating animals that have been strangled
d) Eating blood

To find out what sexual immorality is, we read the OT, where, amongst other things, homosexual behaviour is listed.

Others may argue that the prohibition in the OT refers to temple prostitution, not private relationships.

[NotAllThere]

Then again "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone"...

And then people forget the next bit "Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more".

And the same guy who said this also said

"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill"

“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery'. But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart"