Harman at it again.

[Lucy]

Womans logic.....

Easier to slate me than offer your OWN understanding.

[PerlOfWisdom]

I've never understood that, what's the point of having cake if you're not going to eat it? Of course you'd do both.

It should be "they want to eat their cake and still have it"

[Advocate]

It should be "they want to eat their cake and still have it to eat again!!"

From a cold hard risk to business perspective then there is more risk employing a fertile woman; men still cannot get pregnant (no that guy in the SUN is not really a man)

From a warm fuzzy and moral stand point then there should be equality.

To get these to meet, the chance of a man taking time off for pregnancy has to be the same as the chance of a woman taking time off for pregnancy, shared paternity leave seems to offer the best chance of this?

However we should understand that men and women ARE different, if they weren't we wouldnt be having this discussion. However "different" != "better"



/I shouldnt have got involved!

[wobbegong]

It should be "they want to eat their cake and still have it"

Now that makes sense.

[realityhack]

As I see it RH a right only exists when it doesn't take away from others

As in situations where the perceived 'rights' of one group conflict with that of another.

Which is the principal nail in the coffin of multi-culturalism. Because you simply can't simultaneously satisfy the 'rights' of every subculture.

Which therefore supports the need for a national 'culture' and identity that should ultimately supercede subcultures' values, the shared notions constituting 'common sense'.

IMHO, Marxist notions of political correctness have shattered the national cultural identity by elevating the subculture to the expense of any common sense.

This can only result in the complete failure of social cohesion. This nightmare can only be addressed by the re-assertion of those shared values at the expense of the sub-cultures, and to hell with the PC brigade.

Unfortunately, the legal 'protection' Labour has brought to the 'minority', and every subsequent law passed to protect the 'rights' of the lesser over the greater, are digging us deeper into this mess.

What IMO are honourable intentions to protect the innocent and the weak, will ultimately lead to the downfall of our society as a whole.


And there's my 2p. Enough of a random tangent for you?

[shoes]

The fact that a woman is proposing this nonsense is proof in itself that stupid incompetent women can get jobs they shouldn't have based on their gender rather than their competence.

She is a shining example of why what she is proposing is harmful.

Silly bint.

[SueEllen]

The fact that a woman is proposing this nonsense is proof in itself that stupid incompetent women can get jobs they shouldn't have based on their gender rather than their competence.

She is a shining example of why what she is proposing is harmful.

Silly bint.

She's talking out of her a*** anyway.

If any of her mad proposals became law Cherie Blair QC and her colleagues would be getting rich taking cases to the EU Court of Human Rights.

[Badger]

It's probably some EU initiative written in very small print in some vary large document that no other member state will act on, though they will secretly (and openly if french) laugh at us brits for doing so

[BrilloPad]

What about the rights of male english middle class white hetros?

[Badger]

What about the rights of male english middle class white hetros?

Yeah??