Lucina to win apprentice

[sasguru]

My observations:

1) I'm still undecided on the 'would I give Lucinda a good rinsing' question.

The woman is completely unattractive and devoid of any personal charm.
Wouldn't touch her with yours.

[TheBigYinJames]

My observations:

1) I'm still undecided on the 'would I give Lucinda a good rinsing' question.
2) Alex is a little sheetbag, dropping her in it in the boardroom.
3) Loved Michael McIntyres impression of Alex in the aftershow.
4) If they're all as good as they say they are, none of them 'need' the job.
5) Couple of those interviewers are proper w@nkers. Anyone with an ounce of personal pride would either drop them or simply walk out.

Good telly mind. (IMHO of course...)

And that's partly (or even monstly) the point. it's the reason he keeps the series 'tit' in for so long (the Syeds and Michaels of the group) because it makes for good television. it's the reaons they always have a mouthy yet capable bird in the show. A mousy blonde.

As you've rightly pointed out, if any of them were any good, they'd have made it up the greasy pole through the usual channels. So the ones who apply to be on the show usually have some sort of character flaw which is invisible to them, coupled with an astounding self-belief.

And I would have walked out of those interviews as well (and have done in the past) - but them I'm an ADHDy passive-aggressive unmanageable type

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Check out her CV:

BSc Hons in Psychology. Speaks a few languages. World-class scuba diver, turned down a body-double role as a diver in one of the Bond films. Freelance BA on £100k a year so pulling around £500 a day. Changed her name a few years back from Cindy Burger...

Sounds fairly accomplished to me...

Fair(ish) points but you seem to be equating paper qualifications and earning ability with intelligence, which I don't accept.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

The woman is completely unattractive and devoid of any personal charm.
Wouldn't touch her with yours.

WHS

[Peoplesoft bloke]

I did laugh at Siralan's observation last night that she wouldn't fit in because as a freelancing contractor (although I don't count moving around the same company as real freelancing) she didn't work well in teams and couldn't "stick" a real job, as nobody liked her and she was unmanageable

As a slightly ADHDy passive-aggressive unmanageable type myself, I did see some of the truth in that observation, and I wonder how many contractors like me do it partly because they simply don't work very well on corporate career structures. I tried the big corp ladder for 5 years and hated it, went back to contracting.

I think he was dead right that she shouldn't take the job, but not because of anything wrong with her - I think most people who survive on corporate ladders do so by becoming a little bit droid-like. I think most contractors would recognise her attitude near the end which was basically "i dont need this tulip"

Some of this certainly applies to me - although I actually function best in a team where I'm a follower not a leader. Contracting suits me because I can avoid most of the meaningless managementspeak and daftness like performance reviews, but I can still work in a team and take feedback from others. I just do it properly now instead of using silly forms and words that don't mean anything.

[Dow Jones]

Typical

Typical female BA, I'd say, fits the stereotype: Not really attractive (although she thinks so), always overdressed, highly opinionated (hence not good as part of a team), always producing unworkable plans and drawings AND they all want to be PMs, even though they can't manage their own work properly, let alone others'.

[scooterscot]

I'm going to have my pennies worth...

I think she was chucked out because she'd actually do the job well and Sirallan needs someone to shout at.

Part of the team? That's so 90's... I think siralan style of running a company is over, move along... I've actually left companies because of the management style.

Remember there is no 'i' in team, but there is a 'me'

[scooterscot]

My observations:

2) Alex is a little sheetbag, dropping her in it in the boardroom.

Agree. To quote bricktop (from snatch) "and I ain't got no time for grassers either"

[Dow Jones]

Underworld

Or: 'Snitches end up in ditches' (was that in a film too?)

[moorfield]

Opinion seems to be quite polarized re Lucinda, but as I think I mentioned earlier, I would.

Shall we have a poll ?