Scientists sign petition denying man-made global warming

[sasguru]

None of the things I quoted him saying were anything to do with climatology.

Global warming has nothing to do with climatology? Perhaps my definitions are wrong. Sorry perhaps I should have said Nigel Lawson that worldwide authority on global warming.

[Bagpuss]

He certainly was a world wide authority on pies.

Next week in the Mail, Mavis from Corronation Street on Quantum Physics

[sasguru]

Add opinion without evidence, a large ego, a large dollop of gobtulipeness and a soupcon of cretinism. And voila! Instant Expert.

Who needs in-depth study, judgement, and balancing the evidence for either side?

[The Lone Gunman]

Add opinion without evidence, a large ego, a large dollop of gobtulipeness and a soupcon of cretinism. And voila! Instant Expert.

Who needs in-depth study, judgement, and balancing the evidence for either side?

So that well known scientist Al Gore and his film can be accepted as evidence?

[sasguru]

So that well known scientist Al Gore and his film can be accepted as evidence?

No Al Gore is just another twunt furthering his own career. What's that to do with anything?

[dang65]

What if it were true? What's the worst that can happen?

Take your pick

[Bagpuss]

Take your pick

I meant if it were true and we changed our behaviour, what is the worst that can happen, i.e. there is little penalty for changing behaviour (assuming we are beyond a point of no return) and potential destructive consequences if we carry on regardless. It's like playing russian roulette with either a water pistol or taking a chance on a real gun loaded with live bullets.

[dang65]

I meant if it were true and we changed our behaviour, what is the worst that can happen...

Ah, right, got you. Yes, I agree.

[gingerjedi]

Take your pick

That's like saying "I read it in the Sun"

I think a lot of people are arguing at cross purposes here, I don't know what is causing GW or if it is happening at all, but I do know charging me £300+ to tax my car isn't going to make a blind bit of difference.

Personally I'm unhappy about the government hijacking what could/could not be a very serious issue and using it as a means to generate revenue, if people want to use trains and buses then why not give us a transport system that works? Or would that damage the 'cash cow' income stream they have tapped into??

Greenpeace executive director John Sauven said the plan to bring in higher taxes on cars which people have already bought "gives green taxes a bad name". full article

I assume you agree with this guy?

[sasguru]

That's like saying "I read it in the Sun"

I think a lot of people are arguing at cross purposes here, I don't know what is causing GW or if it is happening at all, but I do know charging me £300+ to tax my car isn't going to make a blind bit of difference.

Personally I'm unhappy about the government hijacking what could/could not be a very serious issue and using it as a means to generate revenue, if people want to use trains and buses then why not give us a transport system that works? Or would that damage the 'cash cow' income stream they have tapped into??



I assume you agree with this guy?

Yes I agree. But some people seem to be too stupid to separate idiotic policies from New Labour with the probable reality of man-made climate change.
As the bloke says, we need to insulate ourselves from economic shocks caused by oil prices by finding alternative technologies, and even if global warming turns out to be a red herring, a by-product of this would be a more pleasant environment. It's generally a win-win situation for all except oil companies and the Arab countries.

Oh and plus we souldn't have to have send young men to die in silly wars in the Middle East. We could just leave that region to go back to it's natural state - something akin to sub-saharan Africa.