The Innocents

[hyperD]

Thou shall not kill ..... maybe I can put it this way .... Thou shall not kill.... did you miss that hyper (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery)d ?... Thou shall not kill not buts no ifs, no debate

Chico? Are you reading a kiddies bible?

This is yet another example of a card-carrying member taking everything literally. No ifs, no buts... no debate. Yes, of course, mustn't upset your belief system with common sense, eh?

Let's take this:

Leviticus 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with [another] man's wife, [even he] that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Deuteronomy 20:13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:

So you see, oh blinkered one, that the definition is murder, not killing. There is a difference. Sadly, you lot are to wrapped up in your alpha courses to see this of course...

[ALM]

Have a read of this passage from the bible:

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

[Chico]

Erm I am missing something here - is that a commandment or a punishment? Thou shall not kill - Commandment. Full stop. Under the Law of Moses if you commit certain heinous crimes - death. That is a punishment. Big difference.

[ALM]

Erm I am missing something here - is that a commandment or a punishment? Thou shall not kill - Commandment. Full stop. Under the Law of Moses if you commit certain heinous crimes - death. That is a punishment. Big difference.

Oh so what do you make of the passge quoted above Chico?

[Chico]

read my post again - heinous crime - you do the time.

[Paco]

Erm I am missing something here - is that a commandment or a punishment? Thou shall not kill - Commandment. Full stop. Under the Law of Moses if you commit certain heinous crimes - death. That is a punishment. Big difference.

I'm curious then as to who actually performs the punishment killing. It obviously can't be a Christian, as they have been commanded not to kill, so do they subcontract the killing to another religion?

[ALM]

read my post again - heinous crime - you do the time.

Ok so are you saying that the passage quoted below in bible on how to treat followers of other religions should be ignored?

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

So exactly what kind of christian are you that you dont even believe in the bible? You're really not that different from the rest of us are you Chico? Come on, admit it ... it's all a load of tosh really isnt it?

[SupremeSpod]

it's all a load of tosh really isnt it?

That would be an ecumenical matter...

Father Spod.
Chief Rabbi of "Our Church of the Spanked Virgin"
Meetings held First Tuesday in the month, all welcome (particularly if you're a virgin as we're running out of them rather quickly here in West Yarkshire, must be something in the water)

[Chico]

ALM

Do you really want a commentary on Deuteronomy? Eh? Do you - because I can give it if you want. Under the Law of Moses how does the passage you quoted contradict the first commandment. Do you know what the first commandment is? Lol you make me laugh. Do yourself justice and read the whole Bible. Don’t show your ignorance by picking bits out trying to prove your erroneous point.

[SupremeSpod]

ALM

Do you really want a commentary on Deuteronomy? Eh? Do you - because I can give it if you want. Under the Law of Moses how does the passage you quoted contradict the first commandment. Do you know what the first commandment is? Lol you make me laugh. Do yourself justice and read the whole Bible. Don’t show your ignorance by picking bits out trying to prove your erroneous point.

Piss off Chico!