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    #21
    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    They are desperate now for revenues.
    Maybe. But that's no reason why not to take advantage.

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      #22
      Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
      Not everything is priced like that. Some products, if not all, are available on a per user basis or per concurrent user basis.
      Yeah, per user is a good one. Use it for a Siebel application, and Siebel (part of Oracle) insist that you never ever delete a user. So Fred quits and is replaced by Joe, you naturally define a user for Joe, but you have to keep Fred's old user forever. And Oracle charge you for it.


      PS AtW, I know you wouldn't use Siebel.

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        #23
        Originally posted by PAH View Post
        No doubt it's a government project then, where they throw money down black holes like Gazza does kebabs?

        15 million for a database.

        You even need to use a Toad to administer it as Oracle's own tools are absolute tulipe.
        Nope - banking.

        It was an integration hub, plus CRM front-end, plus separate back-end system on Oracle.

        Incredibly extendable and flexible, and cheap at half the price.

        SQL Developer (AKA Project Raptor) does everything that TOAD does, for free.
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          #24
          Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
          Nope - banking.

          It was an integration hub, plus CRM front-end, plus separate back-end system on Oracle.

          Incredibly extendable and flexible, and cheap at half the price.

          SQL Developer (AKA Project Raptor) does everything that TOAD does, for free.
          Not quite. It won't do run-time stats by itself. Otherwise I do like SQL Developer better, it's cleaner. But if you're doing serious tuning it doesn't have all that you need.

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            #25
            Originally posted by expat View Post
            Not quite. It won't do run-time stats by itself. Otherwise I do like SQL Developer better, it's cleaner. But if you're doing serious tuning it doesn't have all that you need.
            In that case, you need OEM.
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              #26
              Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
              In that case, you need OEM.
              The DBA needs OEM to tune the database. The developer needs TOAD to tune the SQL, indexes, etc.

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