more lefty liberal bullgladioli

[Diver]

I would just like to point out that the young immigrant taxpayer is going to become the foundation on which the future benefits and pensions system of an ageing Britain is supported.

[HRH]

Yes. You move staight to the top of the CUK Village Idiots club.

OK OK which one of you has created this cretinous character?

Why?? I mean, Im honoured to knock you off your perch but I would like and explanation please.

[HRH]

I would just like to point out that the young immigrant taxpayer is going to become the foundation on which the future benefits and pensions system of an ageing Britain is supported.

And which left wing rag did you read this in? Most Eastern European immigrants have little or no intention of staying in the UK, they are economic migrants like a lot of our tradesmen in Germany in the 70's/80's.

Fair play to them, they work hard and pay tax but only for the short term.

[DimPrawn]

I would just like to point out that the young immigrant taxpayer is going to become the foundation on which the future benefits and pensions system of an ageing Britain is supported.

I'd like to know how, taking out the "cash in hand" immigrant workers, someone on min wage, who probably pays about £1200 a year in income tax, and puts their children into free schooling and uses the free NHS and claims tax-credits and income support and receives child allowance, is going to "fund my retirement"?



PS I'm sure snaw believes this makes sense.

[Diver]

I'd like to know how, taking out the "cash in hand" immigrant workers, someone on min wage, who probably pays about £1200 a year in income tax, and puts their children into free schooling and uses the free NHS and claims tax-credits and income support and receives child allowance, is going to "fund my retirement"?



PS I'm sure snaw believes this makes sense.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

No Im English ......... I spend on average 3-6 weeks in the USA .......

Averaged over what period?

[snaw]

I'd like to know how, taking out the "cash in hand" immigrant workers, someone on min wage, who probably pays about £1200 a year in income tax, and puts their children into free schooling and uses the free NHS and claims tax-credits and income support and receives child allowance, is going to "fund my retirement"?



PS I'm sure snaw believes this makes sense.

EH?

I think I've been typecast.

Equally sure there's a good argument for immigrants who come here to work, pay taxes and generally contribute in exactly the same way as the rest of the working population.

It's the ones who don't work and claim benefits that seem to be an issue, a sentiment which I would agree with - I like the Aussie system, you've got to have lived there for a few years (5 I think) before you're entitled to claim any benefits. Seems fair enough imo.

[Diver]

Averaged over what period?

Do US website visits actually count ?

[HRH]

Averaged over what period?

Since 2002. Last year 2.5 weeks

2006 3.5 weeks

2005 5 weeks

2004 4 weeks.

Happy?

[DimPrawn]

EH?

I think I've been typecast.

Equally sure there's a good argument for immigrants who come here to work, pay taxes and generally contribute in exactly the same way as the rest of the working population.

It's the ones who don't work and claim benefits that seem to be an issue, a sentiment which I would agree with - I like the Aussie system, you've got to have lived there for a few years (5 I think) before you're entitled to claim any benefits. Seems fair enough imo.

That only makes sense if you are replacing the chavs with immigrants. You are not, you are adding the immigrants.

Low paid workers are a net drain on the system. It only makes sense to have immigrants come here that earn more than they take from the welfare state (e.g. doctors, lawyers, vets, dentists, some IT workers etc).

Someone picking carrots in a field does not add to the net growth of the UK.

Still, stick to your left wing ideals snaw. They will see you and your kids to a brighter future.