Please sign this

[sasguru]

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Really? How do you get to that conclusion?

Do you know anything about Objectivism?
Ever been here: http://www.solopassion.com/

I don't imagine you have, it's just easier to slag me off, rather than read stuff and learn things isn't it sas?

I'm not surprised you visit sites called solo passion

Jokes aside, yes I've read that fraud Ayn Rand etc etc.
Now why don't you think for yourself and answer my perfectly reasonable question? When you have individual freedom and a therefore a relatively weak state, how do you resist a more powerful organised state that does not subscribe to the notion of individual freedom?

[ratewhore]

...it's just easier to slag me off, rather than read stuff and learn things isn't it sas?

If you think about it, it probably is!

[51st State]

By 'these people' do you mean us, here, on the board or us, here, in the uk?

I don't know, I imagine some people do.

It's called democracy, which allows for freedom of speech. Maybe not a familiar concept to you.

Sign it or don't sign it I really don't care what you do.

Everytime I run over a squirrel I think of you.

One question: why do you feel that your personal set of values (both national and personal) should be thrust onto an altogether different country with altogether different values and customs?

Are we actually so deluded in this country/US that we believe that our ideals should be believed across the world?

Isn't that why we have fought (and are still fighting) so many unjust wars - just to inflict our own special brand of "justice" on the peoples of the world?

What makes the Chinese wrong, in your esteemed opinion? Is it the fact that they deal with their criminals differently (and more effectively) than we do?

Perhaps a more effective way of protesting against China would be to stop buying goods made in the ROC? That would no doubt p*ss them off more than some greasy scots twat not shaking hands with them.

[HYpno27]

Would you go there and die fighting for their freedom?

Perhaps, if I were single, younger and didn't have kids. My grandad fought in the International Brigade in Spain, so there is a bit of a history of chasing after lost causes in my family

Doesn't stop me sending monetary aid if I choose to

[AtW]

The bit about the squirrels is a JOKE.

I like cats and don't like dogs (some of them are okay though), but you won't find me joking about killing dogs - they might not be my thing but I certainly recognise that they are loved by other people so as long as they don't bite me then it's fine by me - I won't be making jokes about killing dogs and thinking of those who like them - small thing, but it shows pretty important difference between us.

China can be changed without the Chinese people even knowing or caring, in the same way that Star Wars ie Maggie and Ronnie made Russia aware that they couldn't keep up the arms race. The perfect timing and and the perfect plan, did you even know what was going on?

USSR could not care less about not being able to keep up - they had and still have enough nukes to blow up the whole world a few times and no sane person would take chances with that fact.

USSR collapsed because of failing economy - SDI might have forced hand of Gorbachev, but I think it was just luck that someone like him was in position - if it was Putin you could be sure he would not do what Gorbachev did.

[MrRobin]

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I'm not surprised you visit sites called solo passion

Very good!

No offence Lucy, but you have to admit that was sharp.

[AtW]

Perhaps, if I were single, younger and didn't have kids. My grandad fought in the International Brigade in Spain, so there is a bit of a history of chasing after lost causes in my family

Doesn't stop me sending monetary aid if I choose to

That would be supporting terrorist movements

If you went to Tibet you would have found that people there are not fighting for their freedom - they have generally accepted occupation and trying to make the most of it. I don't think they are the most opressed in the world - look at genocide in Darfur that is happening pretty much now en masse, and the Chinese are quietly supporting corrupt regimes in Africa - now THAT is something to fight about on Govt level.

[Lucy]

Very good!

No offence Lucy, but you have to admit that was sharp.

As sharp as a very sharp thing.

[sasguru]

As sharp as a very sharp thing.

Stumped for an answer to my question?

[Lucy]

That would be supporting terrorist movements

If you went to Tibet you would have found that people there are not fighting for their freedom - they have generally accepted occupation and trying to make the most of it. I don't think they are the most opressed in the world - look at genocide in Darfur that is happening pretty much now en masse, and the Chinese are quietly supporting corrupt regimes in Africa - now THAT is something to fight about on Govt level.

I have been to Tibet, and they are fighting for freedom.

You have a million excuses to not support their fight, I wonder why.

ps squirrels are rodents, dogs and cats are not. Well, dogs aren't.