Oath of allegiance to the queen.

[Cheshire Cat]

I'll swear an oath of allegiance to the Queen when she swears one to me.

[HYpno27]

HMMM - less about reclaiming Britishness, and more about apeing our American cousins. Britain as a concept is politically less then 300 years old. Born here, lived here most of my life.

I'm an English republican who finds little in the current political mix that hopes to inspire anything other than control and fear of the population.

Find very little to swear to. Plenty to swear about though

[expat]

She's the Head of State isn't she ? So I don't think you really have much choice old boy. Gawd bless Our Queen !

Yeah, that's my point: I do not accept obligations that I have not entered into freely.

[The Lone Gunman]

I am not loyal to the queen. Why should I have to be?

(Not just expat) Because she and the state are loyal to you.
The Queen is the head of state and such is ultimately responsible for all those rights and protections you make use of every day.
With rights come responsibilities.
I accept taht some people are not royalist, but you can exchange State for Queen if ever we go that route. Sensible compromise from Pvt Spud (for a change).

If you do not wish to be loyal then give up your rights and go find somewhere else to live.

I assume you have given up your passport.

Dont have time to argue today boys.

[VectraMan]

She's the Head of State isn't she ?

Only as a figurehead. Gordon Brown is actually the head of state in every important respect. I don't know why people get so upset about all this monarchy vs. republic stuff; what would actually change if we took the monarchy out of the constitutiuon and called ourselves a republic?

[threaded]

A state is a construct for the purpose of tax collection, that is all.

Everything else: patriotism, nationalism etc.. are just artifacts of this essential truth, and just as false.

[HYpno27]

(Not just expat) Because she and the state are loyal to you.
The Queen is the head of state and such is ultimately responsible for all those rights and protections you make use of every day.
With rights come responsibilities.
I accept taht some people are not royalist, but you can exchange State for Queen if ever we go that route. Sensible compromise from Pvt Spud (for a change).

If you do not wish to be loyal then give up your rights and go find somewhere else to live.

I assume you have given up your passport.

Dont have time to argue today boys.

START RANT: Everything the State gives me I pay for through taxation, either nationally or locally.

I have "bought" the right to peacefully disagree with the policies and structures of state, or has democracy really flown away for good.

My loyalty is to my family and friends of whatever culture or colour they may be, not some fekin abstract ideal I do not share whether that is politcal or religious. END RANT

...and relax

[HYpno27]

A state is a construct for the purpose of tax collection, that is all.

Everything else: patriotism, nationalism etc.. are just artifacts of this essential truth, and just as false.

Thank you Threaded - much more better put than wot I did

[Board Game Geek]

Well said LG !

I sometimes feel that people forget our Monarch is the Head of State and is accorded certain rights and bestows upon us certain responsibilties and protections.

If you ditch that concept, your basically promoting a "self-serving" society, who want rights, but with none of the responsibilities.

I'm not sure that's a healthy society.

[Cheshire Cat]

Maybe we should swear an oath to every tourist attraction?
"As FSM is my witness, I swear to observe and uphold the sanctity of Alton Towers, and fight to the death to preserve the freedoms and privileges of Drayton Manor Park and the Hard Rock Cafe. RAmen."