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    #21
    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    It may cost the same, BUT, you don't have to buy whole CD - most of them have 90% crap "filler" songs with only 10% good, so in those cases you can buy just good song for a dollar, that's why music companies were bricking it when iTunes started up.

    Overall I think price of CD should not more be than $3 - you just need to cut out middleman - RIAA mafia that takes 90% of the sell price of $10, actual artist is getting $1 at best, when selling direct artists can benefit more.
    you obviously know nothing about the retail music biz.

    30-35% of the selling price goes to the retailer.

    tim

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      #22
      IIRC, video killed the radio star.

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        #23
        Originally posted by tim123 View Post
        you obviously know nothing about the retail music biz.
        I worked in retail pal, and we were selling CDs too - yes I know part of the final sell price goes to retailer, and RIAA's mafia part is not actually 90%, but probably something along the lines of 70%, which you can also argue as it is being cut further as other partners of RIAA take their share, like TV ads.

        The matter of fact is that the artist gets fraction of the final sell price - if selling direct then online retailer should be happy to get 15% margin on electronic download (low cost stuff), and artist might take 85%, minus any expenses he deems necessary.

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          #24
          I think "Pop Will Eat Itself" is more apt

          tim

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            #25
            Originally posted by AtW View Post
            There was no radio on demand numpty - you had to listen what radio was playing, but with technology you will be able to effectively listen to music you like on demand, say like lastfm does - what is needed now is fairly fast and cheap mobile broadband.

            There won't be physical CD sales (unless some limited editions or signed by artist) - this method of distribution is way too expensive and if whole CD can be bought for $2-3 online then there won't be many sold at $10 in the shops.

            Just another thing you get wrong Ardesco - it is amazing to see such a complete lack of strategic thinking in you
            Lots of request shows on Radio's and you can usually find some radio station banging out the same old trash again and again and again. At the end of the day people want a local copy of their music that they can listen to whenever they want without needing some form of connection to an external source because you can't always get a connection to an external source (e.g. stuck on the underground).

            If people want local copies they are going to either buy CD's or download songs. A large majority of people like to have the CD because it stores the music in higher quality.

            Your strategic thinking obviously doesn't take into account the fact that most people will be without an internet connection for at least part of their day.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Ardesco View Post
              Your strategic thinking obviously doesn't take into account the fact that most people will be without an internet connection for at least part of their day.
              Numpty, I said clearly - mobile broadband - this means internet connection will be with them when they travel to and from work, go out with a dog, or go for a jog - almost everyone has got mobile phone now (more than ipods out there) and with fairly high speed connection (256kbits will be enough for MP3 stuff) they won't even need big memory cards.

              The only problem is price of downloads, but it will fall big time in the next 3-5 years.

              People who like CDs will be able to burn them, just like many do now already.

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                #27
                Originally posted by AtW View Post
                Numpty, I said clearly - mobile broadband - this means internet connection will be with them when they travel to and from work, go out with a dog, or go for a jog - almost everyone has got mobile phone now (more than ipods out there) and with fairly high speed connection (256kbits will be enough for MP3 stuff) they won't even need big memory cards.

                The only problem is price of downloads, but it will fall big time in the next 3-5 years.

                People who like CDs will be able to burn them, just like many do now already.
                FFS

                How are you going to get mobile broadband in the tube where you don't have any signal??? It may shock you to know that most people go somewhere during their busy day where they either get no signal or a very weak signal.

                Read what I have written Alexi!! (You are really having a bad day today!!)

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                  #28
                  Does this include movies ... ahem... adult and otherwise?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Ardesco View Post
                    How are you going to get mobile broadband in the tube where you don't have any signal???
                    Numpty, there will be mobile broadband on tube too - it is just a matter of time.

                    What you don't understand, numpty, is that mobile companies right now make a killing on voice traffic with limited minutes, which will be completely put into VoIP once speeds increase, so mobile companies will have to change their models, there will be effectively free unlimited phone calls inside country so they will have to compete on something else - they will become broadband providers.

                    That's why you can see how they all bought landline broadband providers in anticipation of this scenario.

                    Oh and one more - of course you will be able to record songs you like that you hear on mobile broadband radio for offline use, this will allow for music playing when (for whatever reason) there is no connection.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by AtW View Post
                      Numpty, there will be mobile broadband on tube too - it is just a matter of time.
                      Indeed, there will be mobile broadband on Mars too. It's just a matter of time.....
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