Abuse of the Visa system

[AtW]

The email is simply offering HSMP people.This is points based ( abolished later this year ) and if the talent has HSMP , then they are already here legally. This is the most legal way out there.

It's not abolished - just rolled into Tier 1 program, in effect HSMP became the testbed for points system visas in the UK, there was nothing like this before HSMP.

[2uk]

I take it that you are an HSMP applicant? Do you know how many of these are given out each year? Can anyone who meets the criteria automatically expect to obtain such a visa? or do they have a set number that they give out?

bona fide means in good faith, proper etc

Everyone who meets the critera gets one. I am European I don't need that crap. The thing is you don't need to deal with them. The supply of skill is enough without them

[beaker]

I am on the HSMP. Supposedly the UK has skills shortages of educated people in all fields, so anyone who has a degree and makes above the average wage can get one. Lately you need to prove you understand English too. I am not aware of a cap on the number of HSMP workers in the UK.

As long as you remain economically active (ie make decent money) and do not claim any benefits then you are allowed to extend your stay, until you qualify for citizenship. At which point most antipodeans get their UK passport and bugger off back to their own countries, never to be seen again. The South Africans tend to stay though, because they'd prefer to live here than in SA. I am making mass generalisations you have probably noticed.

This company seems to offering a service (or exploiting) naiive HSMP visa holders who probably think its the best way for them to work in the UK. They are probably being paid a pittance and this company will take a cut of their earnings. My advice would be if you want decent HSMP people, go recruit them yourself.

[2uk]

I am on the HSMP. Supposedly the UK has skills shortages of educated people in all fields, so anyone who has a degree and makes above the average wage can get one. Lately you need to prove you understand English too. I am not aware of a cap on the number of HSMP workers in the UK.

As long as you remain economically active (ie make decent money) and do not claim any benefits then you are allowed to extend your stay, until you qualify for citizenship. At which point most antipodeans get their UK passport and bugger off back to their own countries, never to be seen again. The South Africans tend to stay though, because they'd prefer to live here than in SA. I am making mass generalisations you have probably noticed.

This company seems to offering a service (or exploiting) naiive HSMP visa holders who probably think its the best way for them to work in the UK. They are probably being paid a pittance and this company will take a cut of their earnings. My advice would be if you want decent HSMP people, go recruit them yourself.

so where u from beaker boy ?

[beaker]

so where u from beaker boy ?

Oz...

[Francko]

As long as you remain economically active (ie make decent money) and do not claim any benefits then you are allowed to extend your stay, until you qualify for citizenship. At which point most antipodeans get their UK passport and bugger off back to their own countries, never to be seen again. The South Africans tend to stay though, because they'd prefer to live here than in SA. I am making mass generalisations you have probably noticed.

What's the point in staying only to get a piece of paper if you are not going to make any use of it?

[AtW]

HSMP now is a big profitable business for the Govt - they charge £400 to review your application, you don't get any appeals and if you get declined then you can't add a single piece of extra evidence for review. Govt is making big money from it, I am pretty certain of that - but again I think it is a better program than workpermits because people who go under it are checked better (income levels should be high in this country too, so they won't be doing IT jobs for £20k), plus it is hard for sweatshop to exploit them since they can change employer without getting new visa.

It's not easy to get under HSMP either.

[beaker]

What's the point in staying only to get a piece of paper if you are not going to make any use of it?

Makes a nice souvenier

And gives you options if you ever want to live in the EU again

[bored]

If you cant beat em ...

It is this that worries me:

Our existing relationship with our employees ensures that they do not leave the project in a hurry.

Just what is "Our existing relationship"?

Seems to me that they are hinting to the client that "Our employees can't leave us because of the terms of their visa" - hoping that the client does not know exactly what HSMP is. Definitely dodgy...

[TheFaQQer]

Do you know what HSMP is?

I thought it was a typo for Her Majesty's Prison Service.