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How do you know they would be no better? Are you saying that as a hard working person earning good money, you would be worse off?Originally posted by rootsnall View PostThe Tories are no better, how will they change anything ?
Are you saying they would do a worse job of the economy?
Are you saying crime would rise above the levels we see now?
Are you saying they would have less control of immigration?
Are you saying they would be less family friendly, be more agressive on IR35?
Are you saying the they would show lower improvements in public services than we are seeing now?Comment
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It would be roughly the same on most fronts, possibly some tinkering but still the same morally corrupt bunch looking after themselves first and foremost.Originally posted by DimPrawn View PostHow do you know they would be no better? Are you saying that as a hard working person earning good money, you would be worse off?
Are you saying they would do a worse job of the economy?
Are you saying crime would rise above the levels we see now?
Are you saying they would have less control of immigration?
Are you saying they would be less family friendly, be more agressive on IR35?
Are you saying the they would show lower improvements in public services than we are seeing now?Comment
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Stick with Brown and co. in that case. Good luck.Originally posted by rootsnall View PostIt would be roughly the same on most fronts, possibly some tinkering but still the same morally corrupt bunch looking after themselves first and foremost.Comment
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Because this legislation doesn't only affect contractors...Originally posted by tim123 View PostIMHO the protestations of the intended target will be ignored. Why do you think otherwise?
IS/FBT will hit on thousands of small family businesses as an unintended (?) consequence of ill-conceived and reactionary legislation.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing."
Edmund Burke (?)
Would you do nothing, when you could do something?
However small that something might be.
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It worked for me. My name appeared at the end of the list and the number had gone up.Originally posted by loki View PostI did... The number of signatures had advanced by 0.Comment
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But that's my point. The representations of the unintended consequences may be listened to.Originally posted by wattaj View PostBecause this legislation doesn't only affect contractors...
IS/FBT will hit on thousands of small family businesses as an unintended (?) consequence of ill-conceived and reactionary legislation.
The complaining of the intended victim will not, IMHO.
And the point that I made previously is, if the latter are too loud the former will be drowned in the noise.
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So we, as the "intended", should just keep quiet?Originally posted by tim123 View PostBut that's my point. The representations of the unintended consequences may be listened to.
The complaining of the intended victim will not, IMHO.
And the point that I made previously is, if the latter are too loud the former will be drowned in the noise.
That sounds like quite a defeatist argument...
I would argue that the "unintended" may only become aware of the full impact of this legislation through the noise generated by the "intended".
YMMV of course.
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Given the PCG's rather unique ability to f8ck up even the most mundane issues (employment regs), Im picking that this bunch of incompetent boobs will also stuff this one up too!Originally posted by wattaj View PostFolks, the PCG's press campaign against the "Family Business Tax" kicks off this morning.
The additional burden of this legislation could potentially affect us all.
If I may, I would like to take this opportunity to ask you all to take a stand and sign the petition...
It may be quite a small thing in itself, but it is yet another stick with which we can beat the perpetrators of this mean spirited legislation.
Thanks in advance for any and all support.

You have to question why anyone would want to belong to a group that makes the government look relatively competent!
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