Indian Development Teams

[Charles Foster Kane]

So whats the deal with Indian Development teams. Just had a project go two months over, which was interesting considering it was a six week project.

Not allowed to talk directly to the developers, have to go through the manager, who doesnt manage. Everything is sequential.

Went to a meeting and there were 20 people in it, of which only two spoke. Why?!?! WHY?!?

The whole thing was literal, no thought placed into anything, if it looked wrong, they programmed it wrong, when I questioned it, the team would say, well it looked wrong but thats what the BRD says, so we did it that way!!!!

Arggahhhhh!!

Has anyone had a successful implementation using an outsourced Indian dev team?

Is that ACTUALLY your real life, or are you blurring reality with Dilbert?

[KathyWoolfe]

Is that ACTUALLY your real life, or are you blurring reality with Dilbert?

I thought Dilbert IS reality?

[AtW]

Hypocrite

Just to put you out of your misery Alexi. Don't look at stupid urban directories they are full of tulip...

Well, it was a joke for christ sake, looks like humour was also outsourced from this country

[DodgyAgent]

I am currently contracting to an Indian company who have an onshore\offshore model. Onshore consists of a largely Indian Test team and and a contracting dev team. Offshore is an Indian Dev team.

I have to say they are very good. I empathise with the person who mentioned meetings with 20+ faces of which only 1 or 2 say something though. They also seem to have a tendency to fib a little, possibly to save face - I have had many occasions where I am told something is done, only to find it isn't - I'm sure many people are guilty of that however and doubt its exclusive to Indian offshore teams.

But on the whole they are a competent bunch and curry nights are brill.

This inshore/nearshore thing is utter b****cks. It is nothing more than a complete scam to import cheap Indians into this country. If the EU cannot provide these skills within the pay rates dictated by markets then fine, but otherwise this practice should be stopped. I dont have a problem with offshoring work, but using it as a backdoor way of importing cheap labour is appalling.

[Shimano105]

For once, Dodgy, I agree with you

[M_B]

This inshore/nearshore thing is utter b****cks. It is nothing more than a complete scam to import cheap Indians into this country. If the EU cannot provide these skills within the pay rates dictated by markets then fine, but otherwise this practice should be stopped. I dont have a problem with offshoring work, but using it as a backdoor way of importing cheap labour is appalling.

Not really. The Indian company is contracted (fixed price) to build a system. How it builds that system is up to them.

[DodgyAgent]

Not really. The Indian company is contracted (fixed price) to build a system. How it builds that system is up to them.

That is a bit like saying, "I've paid a company to harvest my co_ckles. OK that company hires cheap chinese labour below the minimum pay rate, half of who get swept away by tides, but how they go about it is not my problem".
For your information you may end up being party to the criminal activities of your supplier and end up in jail. Companies like tesco get away with it because they are too big to challenge.

[M_B]

That is a bit like saying, "I've paid a company to harvest my co_ckles, OK company hires cheap chinese labour below the minimum pay rate, half of who get swept away by tides, but how they go about it is not my problem".
For your information you may end up being party to the criminal activities of your supplier and end up in jail. Companies like tesco get away with it because they are too big to challenge.

Such tulip.

[SueEllen]

Such tulip.

Can you explain a bit more?

[DodgyAgent]

Such tulip.

In which case it shouldnt be too hard to counter the argument.. so let's hear it.