The North

[The Lone Gunman]

Every time an Englishman talks of "Britain" I use it to remind him that he really means "England".

When I say Britain I mean Britain. If I mean England I say England.

[Archangel]

It's grim.

It is, I am much happier since I sold my 5 bed detached in 1 acre of lovely countryside, half a mile walk to the local village pub which served beer for £2 and was full of friendly northern folk. At least the money paid for a new bedsit in Chelsea which is much less grim, even if I couldn't swing a cat if I was allowed one and outside it is like Beirut on a good day.

- Northern monkey

[Platypus]

Every time an Englishman talks of "Britain" I use it to remind him that he really means "England".

A REAL Englishman only talks of England he never says Britain, he says Scotland or Wales but of course he avoids these words wherever possible anyway.

[bogeyman]

It is, I am much happier since I sold my 5 bed detached in 1 acre of lovely countryside, half a mile walk to the local village pub which served beer for £2 and was full of friendly northern folk. At least the money paid for a new bedsit in Chelsea which is much less grim, even if I couldn't swing a cat if I was allowed one and outside it is like Beirut on a good day.

- Northern monkey

Typical Northern griping bollux! I'm from South Wales. Moved to London as soon as I could. It was paradise! Yeah! even the outermost suburbs were paradise compare to South Wales - and most of the North, I imagine.

When I go back to Swansea (as infrequently as I can) I get thick ***** in pubs telling me how awful London is.

Brilliant!

[TheFaQQer]

Typical Northern griping bollux! I'm from South Wales. Moved to London as soon as I could. It was paradise! Yeah! even the outermost suburbs were paradise compare to South Wales - and most of the North, I imagine.

When I go back to Swansea (as infrequently as I can) I get thick ***** in pubs telling me how awful London is.

Brilliant!

Each to their own. I'm sure you will find plenty of those from more rural parts of the country saying that any big city is great / rubbish / OK.

I can't stand London, to be honest. But I work here because I earn a shed load of cash for doing so. And then I go back to my northern country retreat, which I love.

[Archangel]

I'm from South Wales.

Say no more, anywhere would be better than South Wales.

[51st State]

Say no more, anywhere would be better than South Wales.

Wot he said.

[bogeyman]

Say no more, anywhere would be better than South Wales.

Yeah I know.

It's a sad and pointless place now.

Once it fired the industrial revolution with its coal. Had more railways per square mile than anywhere on earth - but now, a sh1thole.

The thing that irks me most is that the 'local authorities' have done their best to obliterate and astroturf the place. Valuable, historical, industrial buildings and sites have been bulldozed to make way for ASDAs and other such, low-paying crap.

[realityhack]

I visited Abertawe once, and while waiting for a connecting train took a walk into town. Went into a shop and asked the guy behind the counter where the centre, the 'old town' was, you know, with older buildings? Not just the bland shopping centre pre-fab stuff?

He laughed and said: "There is no 'old town', The Second World War put paid to that".

Is that true?

[bogeyman]

I visited Abertawe once, and while waiting for a connecting train took a walk into town. Went into a shop and asked the guy behind the counter where the centre, the 'old town' was, you know, with older buildings? Not just the bland shopping centre pre-fab stuff?

He laughed and said: "There is no 'old town', The Second World War put paid to that".

Is that true?

Yep. Sadly, old ninja squirrel, it is entirely true!

Swansea was the most bombed city in the UK in WW2, apart from London.

The reason was the docks, and the infrastructure, railways, goods yards and so on, that surrounded the area.

It seems silly now, as Swansea docks are pretty much idle, and the town exists largely on state welfare.