Migrants don't drive wages down....

[zeitghost]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7210883.stm

They can't; they're already Minimum Wage as it is...

There should be a 6 month limit for unemployment benefits as in the US. After that you get parachuted into Waziristan.

There is a 6 month limit you feckwhit.

HTH

[threaded]

Depends completely on where the migrants come from. There was a study in Denmark which due to the results being almost completely none-politically-correct is a little hard to find, but I did post a link to it here many months ago now.

[AtW]

I think the irony is that if there were no migrants then wage inflation would definately go up, and this would certainly force BoE rates up considerably - in current case real inflation is still pretty high, but Govt manages to cover it up so that good chaps of BoE won't raise rates too high - that's no good for Labour marginals you know.

[Troll]

"In fact in many cases they're doing jobs that sadly numbers of people here in Wales don't want to do."

Low skilled, low waged, labour intensive menial jobs - it would seem then that we are importing low skilled migrants to perform these tasks.

Surely it would be preferable to fill the posts with the low skilled unemployed we already have here... or is that too radical?

[AtW]

Surely it would be preferable to fill the posts with the low skilled unemployed we already have here... or is that too radical?

It would have been better. Unfortunately they can't be arsed to work and Govt won't force them (or cut benefits) because they are getting votes from those guys (or think they are getting them).

[Dow Jones]

Re-training

How hard would be to train some of the long-term unemployed to do some IT work? If you tell some of them that they may even get salaries of £ 30-40k, wouldn't they go for it? I'd be surprised if they didn't. Long-term so-called problems need long-term solutions, whereas here we adopt short-term ones, eg. not enough teachers/nursers/IT people? Get some from wherever you can, instead of creating an indigenous workforce for the future, not just as and when you need them.

[gingerjedi]

How hard would be to train some of the long-term unemployed to do some IT work? If you tell some of them that they may even get salaries of £ 30-40k, wouldn't they go for it? I'd be surprised if they didn't. Long-term so-called problems need long-term solutions, whereas here we adopt short-term ones, eg. not enough teachers/nursers/IT people? Get some from wherever you can, instead of creating an indigenous workforce for the future, not just as and when you need them.

Computeach and many others do exactly that, they don't tell you that you'll spend the first 2 years on a helpdesk on 12k.

[Churchill]

Low skilled, low waged, labour intensive menial jobs - it would seem then that we are importing low skilled migrants to perform these tasks.

Surely it would be preferable to fill the posts with the low skilled unemployed we already have here... or is that too radical?

There was a chap on t'wireless this morning who said that the current number of people unemployed claiming incapacity benefit is around the 2.3 million mark...

We've never had it so good...

Churchill - In "Let's shoot the lazy lame bastards" mode...

[NoddY]

It's cheaper to import labour than to educate or train your own.

Furthermore large supplies of cheap labour encourage de-mechanisation. This is when people take over the menial tasks once completed by machines.

[Troll]

There was an article on the Beeb about how we may need to import more low skilled labour to build the Olympics... it beggard belief that we cannot get the incumbent work-shy off their arses to get involved... or do you think this could have been used as a warm up to announcing more immigration ( can't work out why London should have any unemployment anyway - if you can't find work in London doing something - you should be shot as valueless)