The shape of things to come....

[BrowneIssue]

I've got more in common with North East Muslims than I have with the Welsh (for example).

Any other groups you want to offend? What's wrong with the Welsh?

And don't get me ******* started on traditions - the people of this country were baying for the monarchy to be disassembled not so bloody long ago

That was the press, not the people.

[BrowneIssue]

other countries are proud of the heritage and national identity... why the **** can't we be?

Because if you are English or British, you are "bad". I was brought up to believe that and I, like many others, are getting right royally sick of it.

So, unsurprisingly, now having other cultures rammed down our ears is causing particular friction.

Oh, sorry! Did I express an opinion? And there's me being British. Terribly sorry, I'll just be quiet then.

[EqualOpportunities]

I like that we're different.

I actually like the fact that we can't even agree on whether it is good or bad that we can't agree!!

How boring would it all be otherwise?

I don't like it, it frightens me... Let's just say that there was a full scale war and we all had to fight - who's side would you be on?

[sasguru]

I don't like it, it frightens me... Let's just say that there was a full scale war and we all had to fight - who's side would you be on?

Not a good argument. The Germans were homogenous and they all agreed they should embark on a war of conquest. See what happened to them.
Wars should be based on fighting for values like freedom and liberty.
I don't agree with the Iraq war, does that make me a traitor?

[BrowneIssue]

Ye but how are the British being made to change?
How is that taking away from your manhood?

FFs grow up! If the muslims want to do the call to prayer then let them get on with. How is that taking away from the so called British hetitage?

What a load of BS!

It will be once you realise you'll need to be quiet during prayer times. No DIY. No working on the car. No gardening.

Just stand there, quietly, waiting until they have finished so you can go back to what you were doing that you used to be allowed to do at any time.

And then there's the complaints about eating at your desk during fast days. (That had already happened at one place I worked: an email "Out of respect for..."). What next? Offensive to eat on the streets too on fast days? Where does that end up?

'We accept all cultures and religions in this country, however the predominant culture and religion is the Anglo-Saxon Christian one and has been for a long time'
John Howard, Australia PM (1995-2007)

And racist high profile Australians who forget they had an indigenous population don't help anyone's cause.

Let's just say that there was a full scale war and we all had to fight - who's side would you be on?

The pacifists - anyone who chooses otherwise deserves to fight, lose their family in the bombing and die.

[EqualOpportunities]

Not a good argument. The Germans were homogenous and they all agreed they should embark on a war of conquest. See what happened to them.
Wars should be based on fighting for values like freedom and liberty.
I don't agree with the Iraq war, does that make me a traitor?

It wasn't an argument mate - just saying how I feel.

FWIW, I don't agree with the Iraq war either.

[SallyAnne]

I don't like it, it frightens me... Let's just say that there was a full scale war and we all had to fight - who's side would you be on?

A war between who?

[Ardesco]

This is quite frankly ridiculous.

We have had a bunch of people say they don't want some people screaming "COME AND PRAY NOW" through a loudspeakers and it has degenerated into a holier than thou preach from the PC members of the board who seem to think that not wanting to hear somebody shout come and pray is racist and xeonphobic behaviour.

No wonder the country is in such a bloody mess. At no point has anybody said that muslims should not be free to pray to thier god and worship thier god. At no point has anybody said that muslims cannot have thier religious festivals.

The only thing that has been said is that we don't want them ramming thier religion in our faces and that we don't want them shouting about it over a loudspeaker. (I also want those nutters that preach about jesus through a microphone in the middle of <insert nearest major town to you here> locked up and told not to do it.)

To everybody who has turned this into a stupid PC fight, hinted at racism and made out that those of us who don't want to hear this are being unreasonable, go buy yourself some hippie glasses, hug a tree and sod off. It is people like you who are helping the BNP increase thier membership and it may well be because of you that they eventually become a party that ios seen as legitimate and not just a bunch of yobs trying to get a bit of power.

[SallyAnne]

Pardon us for evolving the thread Ardesco - we'll all make sure we stay strictly and completely to the topic next time govenor!



And by the way, when phrases like "go back to where they came from" and "just because a cow's born in a stable, it doesn't make it a horse" are concerned, there's no hinting at racism.

[Ardesco]

Pardon us for evolving the thread Ardesco - we'll all make sure we stay strictly and completely to the topic next time govenor!

So turning it into a slanging match about racisim is evolving the thread??

In that case I don't want to be evolved......