Another what would you do ?

[Bagpuss]

Ah here we go.

We're having a discussion here bagpuss - lots of people have the same views as me, and the fact that you're just singling me out suggests that you actually just want to make it personal, and are incapable of having a proper debate with grown ups.

a) I would never call a 17 year old a child. That's ridiculous.
b) yes my attitude would change completely if it was my kid - I would probably turn into a complete over-protective mam. I hope not, but I probably would. I wouldn't want my kids taking drugs, or drinking, or riding the bus, certainly not driving, wouldn't really be happy with them going to uni, dating would be out...need I go on? There's a difference between acting the way your heart tells you (i.e. normal parental instincts) and listening to your head.
c) never ever woudl my attitude change to "a little heroin is ok". Ever. End of.
d) Drugs are no more rife in the north east (with the exception of Middlesborough) than anywhere else in the country. Dont kid yourself -a "child" can get hold of drugs at ever single school in this country, probably at age 11.
e) "maybe you will be giving your daughter a lift down to the red light district when she needs to fund her habit" why can't you just use your common sense and listen to what I am saying for once? There's a massive difference between using a party drug sensibly, and being "on drugs" to the extent where you'd have to sell your body to fund the habit. Can't you get this? Are you really that moronic?

I think most people find your attitude to drug taking quite shocking, that is why I responed to you. Nobody else seemed to be almost advocating the use of it.


wouldn't want my kids taking drugs, or drinking, or riding the bus, certainly not driving, wouldn't really be happy with them going to uni, dating would be out...need I go on?

The above really is pathetic, taking coke is like riding the bus? FFS? hello, knock knock is there anyone in there?


Is coke an addictive drug?
Yes or No?

Are all the ingredients in Coke good for you?
Yes or No?

Can it lead to more addiction?
Yes or No?

Should children be taking it?
Yes or No?

Do people die from taking drugs?
Yes or No?


Is it harmless?
Yes or No?

[youwhut]

My response to all of your questions is "yes and no".

[SallyAnne]

I think if that were the case don't you think Sandy's daughter would also see it that way ?

No, I get the impression that Sandy's daughter is the kind of lass who hasn't dabbled in drugs. She's 17 and in the house talking to her mam ffs - Sandy has done a 100% successful job!
Plus her daughter said her friend has "started getting into drugs" - that doesn't suggest a "drug habit" to me - it sugests a 100% over-reactive freak out.

[M_B]

My response to all of your questions is "yes and no".

The answers will be exactly the same for Alcohol too.

[snaw]

Let's just make everything that's harmful to us illegal. That way we'll have a consistent base from which to debate ...

[NotAllThere]

Take for example E, deemed to be harmless (and it's nowhere near as noxious as coke), it's only now that the extent of the brain damge it causes is coming to light..

One of my cousins took 1 Ecstasy table one time. Triggered paranoid schizophrenia.

I'm not sure where you gets this idea that a 17 year old isn't a child, SA? Or are you still in your early 20s? An 18-year old is a young adult. But most are still pretty child-like.

[Bagpuss]

The answers will be exactly the same for Alcohol too.

Alcohol does have many adverse effects, but. Alcohol manufacture is heavily regulated in favour of safety, so you believe the producton of drugs is controlled in any way other than maximising profit?
You cannot die from having 1 drink, you can die from taking bad drugs once.
The parents need to be told.

[NotAllThere]

Let's just make everything that's harmful to us illegal. That way we'll have a consistent base from which to debate ...

No, because then you'd have the same crime related activity with alcohol as you do with e.g. coke. Perhaps the best solution is the other way. Legalise and control the industry. In Switzerland, where registered addicts can get their heroin from the government, drug related crime is very low, but the levels of addiction are higher, compared with the UK.

[TimberWolf]

I've not taken 'drugs' and not been tempted. Feeling in control of oneself is highly underrated and I like it. I'm not particlularly keen on getting into a drunken stopour though drink either. It makes me feel ill.

Why is there no halo emotico ?

[SallyAnne]

The above really is pathetic, taking coke is like riding the bus? FFS? hello, knock knock is there anyone in there?

My point was parents worry for no reason. It's natural! It's complete human instinct.

Is coke an addictive drug?
Yes or No?

Not in my experience, no.

Are all the ingredients in Coke good for you?
Yes or No?

Probably not.
I'm sure all the ingredients in the salad I just had aren't either. or the coffee I just drank, or the booze I had at the weekend.

Can it lead to more addiction?
Yes or No?

Not in my experience, no.

Should children be taking it?
Yes or No?

Children, i.e. under 16, no. I know that quite a lot between 14 and 16 do. I'm not sure I'm happy about this - similarly I'm not sure I'm happy about this age bracket of kid drinking either.
Over 16 - if they can earn a wage, they can do what they like with the money. Societies job is to advise and educate them, so they can look for the danger signs and be safe.

Do people die from taking drugs?
Yes or No?

Some can yes. People die from all sorts of things. More die from drink each year, and I'm not even talkign about liver disease - more kids get knacked down, get alcohol poisoning, murdered, fall from buildings etc etc each year from drink than they do from drugs.
WAY more get killed in car accidents.

Is it harmless?
Yes or No?

If by "it" we're still talking about coke, I would say 90% yes. Up to 99% if the people taking it are fully educated in what they're doing, and they dont mix it with drink.