Call for Welsh dragon to be on Union flag

[Churchill]

I suggest we have a referendum and tell the Welsh to get f*cked!

[TheFaQQer]

Here

Gah - I still needed to click a link to get there! It's bad enough that I had to leave TPD...

The issue of whether to use the term "Union Flag" or "Union Jack" is a matter of some debate. One view is that "Union Jack" should only be used for the flag when it is flown as a jack (a small flag flown at the bow of a ship), but it is not universally accepted that the "Jack" of "Union Jack" is a reference to such a jack flag and is only an educated guess. The Flag Institute, the vexillological organisation for the United Kingdom, stated that the term Union Flag is a "relatively recent idea". It also noted that "From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag".

When the flag was initially introduced, in 1606, it was known simply as "the British flag" or "the flag of Britain". The first use of the name "Union" appeared in 1625. The word 'jack' was in use before 1600 to describe the maritime bow flag. By 1627 a small Union Jack was commonly flown in this position. One theory goes that for some years it would have been called just "the Jack", or "Jack flag", or "the King's Jack", but by 1674, while formally referred to as "His Majesty's Jack", it was commonly called the Union Jack, and this was officially acknowledged.

The 'Jack' part of the name may also have come from the name of King James I / James VI of Scotland, who inherited the English crown, uniting the two kingdoms. Jac is from Jacobus, Latin for James. King James was fond of attaching his name to items of national importance. Other examples include the King James Bible, commissioned in 1603, and Jamestown - the first English speaking settlement made in North America under King James' rule (1607).

The size and power of the Royal Navy internationally at the time could also explain why the flag was nicknamed the "Union Jack"; considering the navy was so widely utilised and renowned by the United Kingdom and Commonwealth countries, it is possible that the term "Jack" did occur due to its regular use on all British ships using the "Jack Staff" (a flag pole attached to the bow of a ship). Even if the term "Union Jack" does derive from the jack flag (as perhaps seems most likely), after three centuries, it is now sanctioned by use, has appeared in official use, and remains the popular term. The BBC website disregards the term "union flag" because of its "great potential for confusion", preferring union jack (in lower case) The term "Union Flag", on the other hand, is the term preferred in official documents by vexillologists.[citation needed] The Merchant Shipping Act 1995 refers to the national colours of the United Kingdom as "the Union flag (commonly known as the Union Jack) …".

[daviejones]

Gah - I still needed to click a link to get there! It's bad enough that I had to leave TPD...

Sorry for making you do that extra click......

[Bagpuss]

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[Bluebird]

I'm quite happy with being Welsh and having a Welsh flag.

I don't want to be associated with a racist or sectarian emblem.

[daviejones]

[QUOTE=Bagpuss;362067]How much do people trust Wikipedia?QUOTE]

Not a lot after I was allowed to change a bit to show a particular actress was not actually born in Kent, but was in fact brought up by wolves!!! It made me chuckle at the time though...

[Churchill]

I'm quite happy with being Welsh and having a Welsh flag.

I don't want to be associated with a racist or sectarian emblem.

Do elaborate.

[wendigo100]

So, Her Majesty's Jack it is then.

[Alf W]

So, Her Majesty's Jack it is then.

She's got the jack...

[Bluebird]

Do elaborate.

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