England vs Croatia predictions

[snaw]

I'd respond but every part of that statement is just such utter sh!te it's really not worth the effort.

I think we've just confirmed Mailman actually is an oxygen thief.

[tay]

Why's that? We're talking about sport and you'll not find a more passionate fan base than the tartan army.

And no, the arrogance was as much on display by the fans who seemed to think all NZ had to do was turn up and the cup was theirs. How many booked semi's and finals tickets? Blokes with pre-booked tattoo's. Think there are many more stories along this vein.

You are a hypocrite. When its the 'Tartan' army its passion.. when its the AB supporters its arrogance. I know SAS and Wendigo are just having a dig, but you are truely ignorant. Yeah ...heaven forbid if your team is ranked number 1 in the world, and is favourites, you book tickets for the final.... jeez you are a clown. You suggesting nobody buy tickets to the final till after the semi finals? As for booking tickets for the semi... yeah you are right... we should ahve organised to buy tickets the week before the semi.. and flown 30 hours around the world... only once we were confirmed in a semi.... jeez.

As far as I'm aware only one of them, NZ, has rugby as it's primary sport.

Thanks for comfirnming you are not aware of very much about rugby. I am getting sick of correcting you.

[tay]

I'd respond but every part of that statement is just such utter sh!te it's really not worth the effort.

I think we've just confirmed Mailman actually is an oxygen thief.

In that case it was a perfectly suitable repsonse to your steaming pile of horse manure.

[snaw]

You are a hypocrite. When its the 'Tartan' army its passion.. when its the AB supporters its arrogance. I know SAS and Wendigo are just having a dig, but you are truely ignorant. Yeah ...heaven forbid if your team is ranked number 1 in the world, and is favourites, you book tickets for the final.... jeez you are a clown. You suggesting nobody buy tickets to the final till after the semi finals? As for booking tickets for the semi... yeah you are right... we should ahve organised to buy tickets the week before the semi.. and flown 30 hours around the world... only once we were confirmed in a semi.... jeez.

Nope, I'm just stating the widely held belief that this time round the NZ team, press and public were a touch arrogant and believed all they had to do was turn up and they'd be crowned winners ... to the point where a large percentage of Kiwi's bought tickets to the finas ... Disprove me if it's not true.

And no, I'm having a dig too, just that you're getting a bit hot under the collar and can'd simply admit that yes, maybe our team was a touch arrogant. That plus you keep making silly comments regarding the Scottish football team which you can't back up.

Thanks for comfirnming you are not aware of very much about rugby. I am getting sick of correcting you.

You're right, I don't know very much about rugby - but I think I know more about it than you appear to know about football. BTW Which other major nation in the rugby world has rugby as it's primary sport?

Got an answer or gonna choke on that too?

[tay]

Nope, I'm just stating the widely held belief that this time round the NZ team, press and public were a touch arrogant and believed all they had to do was turn up and they'd be crowned winners ... to the point where a large percentage of Kiwi's bought tickets to the finas ... Disprove me if it's not true.

And no, I'm having a dig too, just that you're getting a bit hot under the collar and can'd simply admit that yes, maybe our team was a touch arrogant. That plus you keep making silly comments regarding the Scottish football team which you can't back up.

You seriously cannot see the hypocrisy in your attitude? Widely held belief? Not surprising given the British medias coverage. You have failed to provide any proof of this arrogance.. apart from some supporters of the favourites buying finals tickets in advance... if they had waited till the week before the final.. there would not have been any left. It not a difficult concept.. how far in advance do Football WC finals tickets sell? Is everyone who buys them therefore arrogant?? Its a nonsense. You have provided no proof of arrogance, so put up or shut up.

You're right, I don't know very much about rugby

I had noticed.

- but I think I know more about it than you appear to know about football.

Dont think so.

BTW Which other major nation in the rugby world has rugby as it's primary sport?

Got an answer or gonna choke on that too?

Wales. And it could be argued South Africa as well.

[snaw]

You seriously cannot see the hypocrisy in your attitude? Widely held belief? Not surprising given the British medias coverage. You have failed to provide any proof of this arrogance.. apart from some supporters of the favourites buying finals tickets in advance... if they had waited till the week before the final.. there would not have been any left. It not a difficult concept.. how far in advance do Football WC finals tickets sell? Is everyone who buys them therefore arrogant?? Its a nonsense. You have provided no proof of arrogance, so put up or shut up.

Equally you've provided no proof of lack of arrogance. I'm going by the widely held veiwpoint, outisde NZ obviously, that this time the NZ RWC team was arrogant. We could do a poll if you want of this board?

Dont think so.

Anyone who starts off by slagging Scotland for not getting a draw against Italy, in a condesending way, IMO knows SFA about football. I don't know much about rugby, but I'm pretty sure I could name you the last world champions, and if I started quoting results needed I'd like to think I'd get them right ...

Wales. And it could be argued South Africa as well.

Don't know the precise numbers but you can definitely argue the toss in wales as to what's most played sport (30 years ago it may have been different). And unless you're ruling out the black majority then football is easily the most popular in SA.

[tay]

Equally you've provided no proof of lack of arrogance. I'm going by the widely held veiwpoint, outisde NZ obviously, that this time the NZ RWC team was arrogant. We could do a poll if you want of this board?

Only in Britain, and that is because of crap tabloid journalists spinning lies. I have already educated you about the lies they say about PI poaching, the same can be said for arrogance. I am not debating the British media portray them as arrogant, but the fact is there is no evidence to support it. You cant provide any except that some fans bought finals tickets. The onus is on you to prove this arrogance if you are going to make the accusation, in a sport you know nothing about.

Anyone who starts off by slagging Scotland for not getting a draw against Italy, in a condesending way, IMO knows SFA about football. I don't know much about rugby, but I'm pretty sure I could name you the last world champions, and if I started quoting results needed I'd like to think I'd get them right ...

That wasnt the start.. the start was you slagging off the New Zealand rugby side. I could dop a lot more than name recent WC champions in football. Scotland are rubbish at football, you cant accept that, but its the fact, I dont care about punching above your weight.. thats loser talk. Even NZ has been to a WC and we totally suck at football.

Don't know the precise numbers but you can definitely argue the toss in wales as to what's most played sport (30 years ago it may have been different). And unless you're ruling out the black majority then football is easily the most popular in SA.

No you cant. It is the national sport of Wales. You asked for an example and I gave you one. Dont squirm about.
Football has more players in NZ than rugby as well. Mainly as its easier to play for longer. But rugby is still the national sport.

[Mailman]

Don't know the precise numbers but you can definitely argue the toss in wales as to what's most played sport (30 years ago it may have been different). And unless you're ruling out the black majority then football is easily the most popular in SA.

Am I the only one who has noticed your deft change of tact here?

Mailman

[snaw]

Only in Britain, and that is because of carp tabloid journalists spinning lies. I have already educated you about the lies they say about PI poaching, the same can be said for arrogance. I am not debating the British media portray them as arrogant, but the fact is there is no evidence to support it. You cant provide any except that some fans bought finals tickets. The onus is on you to prove this arrogance if you are going to make the accusation, in a sport you know nothing about.

Only in Britian, eh? I know plenty of Aussies who'd laugh at that one ... can't speak for the saffies or french though ...

That wasnt the start.. the start was you slagging off the New Zealand rugby side. I could dop a lot more than name recent WC champions in football. Scotland are rubbish at football, you cant accept that, but its the fact, I dont care about punching above your weight.. thats loser talk. Even NZ has been to a WC and we totally suck at football.

We're pretty decent at football. As I said, compared to our size we're actually very good. We went through a bad patch in the over the last few years but we're through that I think and the future is pretty bright.

NZ are supposed to be good at rugby. But they seem to have developed a habit of choking at the vital time. I'd say losers are the ones who're supposed to be good and choke at the vital times as opposed to the team who's supposed to be rubbish beating one of the world cup finalists and giving the world champions a very good run for their money.

We've been to plenty of world cups, and we've a decent chance of getting to the next one. The strength of the qualifying groups alone should tell you about the relevent merits of the difficulty of being good at each sport ...

No you cant. It is the national sport of Wales. You asked for an example and I gave you one. Dont squirm about.
Football has more players in NZ than rugby as well. Mainly as its easier to play for longer. But rugby is still the national sport.

It may be the national sport but I stated main sport - there is a difference. Giving you that point anyway (Cause I could care less) then my point is still valid - of the major nations only NZ (&Wales) play it as their main sport. You're the favourites yet as stated when it comes to the crunch you choke. In what way does that make you winners with a right to call the jock football team losers?

Choker ...

[sasguru]

OK OK. I declare this thread closed.

Last time I heard:

NZ LOST to France
OZ LOST to England

End of story. Move on. Nothing to see here.