Another fffing speeding ticket

[hyperD]

Yes but do you obey them? It is all very well some of you sanctimonious hypocrites saying "its the law" but speed limits bear no relation to safe driving.
No one unless they can hand on heart say that they have never broken a speed limit has a right to lecture others on breaking limits.

"Let him who is without an SP30 pass the first cone"

Gospel according to Sir John Stevens

[Spacecadet]

Yes but one is not breaking the law. You cannot have it both ways. If someone breaks the speed limit and is therefore a danger to society no matter the circumstances or the amount then conversely if they are driving within the letter of the law they are not constituting any danger whatsoever.

covered under dangerous driving and the highway code does state that you must reduce your speed when conditions require it.

[Ardesco]

Letter of law is that posted speed limits are MAXIMUMS allowed - you might be breaking law driving at 30 mph on 40 mph road if this driving is dangerous, say if people crossing the road.

You can't say law is law on the one hand but we will ignore the law because is doesn't fit this scenario on the other!!

If you are willing to disregard the law for somebody who you think should be prosecuted for being an arse on the one hand why not also disregard it for the person breaking the arbitury limit, but in a way that is not going to affect anybody.

[Ardesco]

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/arousal.html

Quite a good link, explains how speed limits that are too slow are a bad thing.

[AtW]

If they choose to cross a road when there are cars travelling on it

And what about school time crossing of children? Is it a fair deal to kill a child who mistakenly run onto the road on which your car travels?

It's all about appropriate speed in prevailing conditions.

I drive very carefully these days - even if it someone elses fault in accident it will still cost you a lot of hassle, money and conscience (if you are not an agent).

[AtW]

You can't say law is law on the one hand but we will ignore the law because is doesn't fit this scenario on the other!!

The law of speed limits is not that you are ALLOWED to drive at that speed, it is the MAXIMUM speed limit! If you go around blind corner on otherwise 40 mph road, then it is a wise decision to slow down just in case - there can be someone crossing street there, or broken down car, or just ice that would tip the balance between your life and death.

[Spacecadet]

http://www.safespeed.org.uk/arousal.html

Quite a good link, explains how speed limits that are too slow are a bad thing.

if you need to drive above a certain speed to stay "aroused" then maybe you shouldn't be driving.

and as for safespeed being an interesting link....

[Spacecadet]

FFS, speeding offences are nothing compared with perverting the course of justice... oddly enough the beaks take a very dim view of that.

you mean like, pretending to not know who was driving at the time of the offense?

[DodgyAgent]

And what about school time crossing of children? Is it a fair deal to kill a child who mistakenly run onto the road on which your car travels?

It's all about appropriate speed in prevailing conditions.

I drive very carefully these days - even if it someone elses fault in accident it will still cost you a lot of hassle, money and conscience (if you are not an agent).

My argument is simply that a speed limit is not a true arbiter of whether driving is dangerous or not, and you have just proved my point.

[NotAllThere]

...limits need to be there or else a significant majority of drivers would see nothing wrong with driving at full speed everywhere on any road...

Rubbish. You've clearly never driven on a German Autobahn. I cruise at between 150 and 160kph ( that's about 95-100mph). I find it most comfortable, overtaking most people, occasionally pulling over for the few who want to go faster. Most people seem to drive at around 140kph (90mph) on the unrestricted stretches.