McClaren for the Chop

[sasguru]

[QUOTE=wendigo100;320590]
The English game needs a root and branch overhaul, but the FA are too incompetent and the clubs won't have it anyway.

[QUOTE]

Agreed. As done by the French culminating in their 98 win.

[gingerjedi]

Can anyone see oddschecker.com? What are the bookies odds on us qualifying?

[FiveTimes]

Can anyone see oddschecker.com? What are the bookies odds on us qualifying?

Betfair have odds of 45/23.

Plus England to win 2008 - 20/1

[Bagpuss]

Betfair have odds of 45/23.

Plus England to win 2008 - 20/1

20-1! how tight is that

200-1 is more realistic

[sasguru]

More importantly, what chance have Israel of beating Russia? Anyone know - can't access bookies here.

[DS23]

they can but do they have the will? can israel still qualify?

[poser]

is it all the managers fault? what about thr players?

[DS23]

the problem was not losing in russia but failing to beat macedonia in england.

[sasguru]

they can but do they have the will? can israel still qualify?

If Russia beat Israel it's all over for us.

[Bagpuss]

The group should have been easy for Hingaland. Russia have beat no-one of note (are Hingaland of note?) and are a distinctly average team with no stars. The only conclusion is Hingaland are vastly overated.