ATW - would you agree?

[Troll]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7043911.stm

A study of how well European countries integrate immigrants places the UK ninth out of 25 EU nations.

The continental-wide review praised the UK's nationality and residency laws, but said migrants did not have enough workplace or political rights.

A MIGRANT'S LIFE: UK SCORES
5th: Long-term residence
5th: Nationality laws
5th: Discrimination laws
12th: Family reunion
12th: Labour market access
15th: Political rights

Note: League table of 25 EU nations; Source: Migration Integration Policy index

[AtW]

I think this is a load of bull. This sort of stuff only makes sense in USA where different states might have distinctly different policies so a mecixan chap can decide where it is best to go to.

In Europe there are many different languages - if you know just English (and how many immigrants know many different languages?) you go to the UK, if you know German you go to Germany, maybe Austria, if you know French you go to France. My guess is that most probably learnt English so they go to the UK and that's really about it.

[Gonzo]

There is a fundamental flaw with the process in the UK that I have seen at first hand.

Mrs Gonzo is from NZ, but now has dual British nationality, she went through the citizenship cermony too (what a joke that was but don't get me started ).

So she has a certificate that states she is British, but it doesn't tell her which side she is supposed to support when England, Scotland, Ireland or Wales are playing each other at rugby.

How are people supposed to integrate if they are not given the information that they need to fully engage with the locals?

She badly needs a new rugby team to support too.

[TheFaQQer]

There is a fundamental flaw with the process in the UK that I have seen at first hand.

Mrs Gonzo is from NZ, but now has dual British nationality, she went through the citizenship cermony too (what a joke that was but don't get me started ).

So she has a certificate that states she is British, but it doesn't tell her which side she is supposed to support when England, Scotland, Ireland or Wales are playing each other at rugby.

How are people supposed to integrate if they are not given the information that they need to fully engage with the locals?

She badly needs a new rugby team to support too.

We need to incorporate the Tebbitt test into the citizenship exam, obviously!

[chasingtheaurora]

There is a fundamental flaw with the process in the UK that I have seen at first hand.

Mrs Gonzo is from NZ, but now has dual British nationality, she went through the citizenship cermony too (what a joke that was but don't get me started ).

So she has a certificate that states she is British, but it doesn't tell her which side she is supposed to support when England, Scotland, Ireland or Wales are playing each other at rugby.

How are people supposed to integrate if they are not given the information that they need to fully engage with the locals?

She badly needs a new rugby team to support too.

It's obvious ... SCOTLAND!

[tay]

She badly needs a new rugby team to support too

Bad sign for you if she changes the team she supports as soon as things get difficult....

[AtW]

We need to incorporate the Tebbitt test into the citizenship exam, obviously!

A lot of people knock that old chap but I actually like him - there should be more people like him who talk pretty straight without political correct rubbish - I don't agree with all he says but he sure deserves respect for saying things other won't dare.

[DBA_bloke]

he sure deserves respect for saying things other won't dare.

Hmmm. Like Hitler? Or Nick Griffin? Or mad beardies? Bollocks. Tebbo was rabid right wing politics incarnate, and did feck all to help his party: he made it piss-easy to hate, revile and ridicule them. Only reason he and his ilk weren't turfed-out was that the Tories thought they had the helm forever and so loony oddballs like Tebbo were not seen as a threat... they were wrong.

[shaunbhoy]

Having a full complement of odd balls does not seem to have harmed NL as yet. Tragic really, although the portents are starting to look better at long last.

[DBA_bloke]

Having a full complement of odd balls does not seem to have harmed NL as yet. Tragic really, although the portents are starting to look better at long last.

Different times. The Great British Public is no longer politically aware.