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Previously on "ATW - would you agree?"

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by DBA_bloke View Post
    Hmmm. Like Hitler? Or Nick Griffin? Or mad beardies?
    The issue with those is not with what they say, but with fools believing them - of course calling for people to be murdered is unacceptable but Tebbit never says this - he has views that you may disagree with, just like Nick Griffin, but I find that having some lunatics with their views better than having completely politically correct society - remember you don't have to believe or even listen to those guys, but they have a right to free speech just like you and me.

    If he causes so much damage to the Cons then they should kick him out from the party.

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  • DBA_bloke
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    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    Having a full complement of odd balls does not seem to have harmed NL as yet. Tragic really, although the portents are starting to look better at long last.
    Different times. The Great British Public is no longer politically aware.

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Having a full complement of odd balls does not seem to have harmed NL as yet. Tragic really, although the portents are starting to look better at long last.

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  • DBA_bloke
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    he sure deserves respect for saying things other won't dare.
    Hmmm. Like Hitler? Or Nick Griffin? Or mad beardies? Bollocks. Tebbo was rabid right wing politics incarnate, and did feck all to help his party: he made it piss-easy to hate, revile and ridicule them. Only reason he and his ilk weren't turfed-out was that the Tories thought they had the helm forever and so loony oddballs like Tebbo were not seen as a threat... they were wrong.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    We need to incorporate the Tebbitt test into the citizenship exam, obviously!
    A lot of people knock that old chap but I actually like him - there should be more people like him who talk pretty straight without political correct rubbish - I don't agree with all he says but he sure deserves respect for saying things other won't dare.

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  • tay
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    She badly needs a new rugby team to support too

    Bad sign for you if she changes the team she supports as soon as things get difficult....

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  • chasingtheaurora
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    Originally posted by Gonzo View Post
    There is a fundamental flaw with the process in the UK that I have seen at first hand.

    Mrs Gonzo is from NZ, but now has dual British nationality, she went through the citizenship cermony too (what a joke that was but don't get me started ).

    So she has a certificate that states she is British, but it doesn't tell her which side she is supposed to support when England, Scotland, Ireland or Wales are playing each other at rugby.

    How are people supposed to integrate if they are not given the information that they need to fully engage with the locals?

    She badly needs a new rugby team to support too.
    It's obvious ... SCOTLAND!

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by Gonzo View Post
    There is a fundamental flaw with the process in the UK that I have seen at first hand.

    Mrs Gonzo is from NZ, but now has dual British nationality, she went through the citizenship cermony too (what a joke that was but don't get me started ).

    So she has a certificate that states she is British, but it doesn't tell her which side she is supposed to support when England, Scotland, Ireland or Wales are playing each other at rugby.

    How are people supposed to integrate if they are not given the information that they need to fully engage with the locals?

    She badly needs a new rugby team to support too.
    We need to incorporate the Tebbitt test into the citizenship exam, obviously!

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  • Gonzo
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    There is a fundamental flaw with the process in the UK that I have seen at first hand.

    Mrs Gonzo is from NZ, but now has dual British nationality, she went through the citizenship cermony too (what a joke that was but don't get me started ).

    So she has a certificate that states she is British, but it doesn't tell her which side she is supposed to support when England, Scotland, Ireland or Wales are playing each other at rugby.

    How are people supposed to integrate if they are not given the information that they need to fully engage with the locals?

    She badly needs a new rugby team to support too.

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  • AtW
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    I think this is a load of bull. This sort of stuff only makes sense in USA where different states might have distinctly different policies so a mecixan chap can decide where it is best to go to.

    In Europe there are many different languages - if you know just English (and how many immigrants know many different languages?) you go to the UK, if you know German you go to Germany, maybe Austria, if you know French you go to France. My guess is that most probably learnt English so they go to the UK and that's really about it.

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  • Troll
    started a topic ATW - would you agree?

    ATW - would you agree?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7043911.stm
    A study of how well European countries integrate immigrants places the UK ninth out of 25 EU nations.
    The continental-wide review praised the UK's nationality and residency laws, but said migrants did not have enough workplace or political rights.

    A MIGRANT'S LIFE: UK SCORES
    5th: Long-term residence
    5th: Nationality laws
    5th: Discrimination laws
    12th: Family reunion
    12th: Labour market access
    15th: Political rights

    Note: League table of 25 EU nations; Source: Migration Integration Policy index

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