Question for the experts: Cat5, RJ45's and finishing the cables

[milanbenes]

LG,

many thanks the cat5's in each room are already coiled up in their backboxes in the same blocks with the power sockets

so, I'll findout which company's back boxes we've got and get the face plates from them and nip to me local GEEK SHOP for the pusher tool.

Cheers,

Milan.

[Clippy]

Clipper,

if you read the thread before asking...

'Couple of points:

1) As highlighted above, why are you not inserting these ends into a patch panel?
'


because there ain't no ends on the bleeding cables because I need to put the ends onto the cables and then I can plug em into the patch panel or switch

ends = rj45 connectors by the way


LG, thanks I check their website. To confirm I have two choices for the rooms, to bye the female rj45s and crimp them or to buy complete face panels and ram the cat5 in with the special tool.


Milan.

If you do your homework before posting...

You'll find standard practice is not to finish off the 'switch end' of the cable with RJ45 plugs but to terminate directly into a patch panel and to then patch the patch-panel and the network switch.

Example

[Chugnut]

LG,

many thanks the cat5's in each room are already coiled up in their backboxes in the same blocks with the power sockets

so, I'll findout which company's back boxes we've got and get the face plates from them and nip to me local GEEK SHOP for the pusher tool.

Cheers,

Milan.

Chances are the manufacturer of the back boxes won't make the face plates for them. It won't matter though; they are standard sizes so that any type of single or double socket, switch, phone, aerial, etc. will fit.

I used tlc-direct modular type. I wanted MK but they didn't make RJ45 wall plates at the time, and probably still don't either. Obviously, they can be swapped out at for a more aesthetic type at a later time if needs be, provided there's enough cable in the wall to re-punch the wires.

Linky

[milanbenes]

what's the point of the patch panel why not go straight into the switch or is the patch panel another way to get the naive to buy stuff they don't need ?

Milan.

ps thanks for the links

[gingerjedi]

what's the point of the patch panel why not go straight into the switch or is the patch panel another way to get the naive to buy stuff they don't need ?

Milan.

ps thanks for the links

If you have 100 connections in one cabinet it would be catalogued so each connection would correspond to a given outlet which is a lot easier than having 100 cables to sort through when you need to re-patch.

In your case it’s not really necessary.

[The Lone Gunman]

LG,

many thanks the cat5's in each room are already coiled up in their backboxes in the same blocks with the power sockets

so, I'll findout which company's back boxes we've got and get the face plates from them and nip to me local GEEK SHOP for the pusher tool.

Cheers,

Milan.

I dont want to upset you, but you may find that your network is buggered before you start.
Cat5 and power dont mix well.

Back boxes are standard. Face plates will fit.
Leave the cable with at least 1 coil (just incase you make a mistake) more if you have the room.

[milanbenes]

LG,

thanks,

I just checked, plugs are in separate banks of 'backboxes'

minimum couple of foot from cat5 and coax banks of backboxes'

Milan.

[Churchill]

I dont want to upset you, but you may find that your network is buggered before you start.
Cat5 and power dont mix well.

Back boxes are standard. Face plates will fit.
Leave the cable with at least 1 coil (just incase you make a mistake) more if you have the room.

We run our Mitel phone system on "power over ethernet".

[The Lone Gunman]

We run our Mitel phone system on "power over ethernet".

No reason you shouldnt. Just seperate circuits for power and cat5 can generate too much noise for the SNR of most modems.
Shared earths, noise reducing circuits and special modems all help.

[Ardesco]

what's the point of the patch panel why not go straight into the switch or is the patch panel another way to get the naive to buy stuff they don't need ?

Milan.

ps thanks for the links

you may not want to use all ports for networking, I Use a few network ports for phone at home, just make sure you either put RJ45 connectors on the phone line, or use RJ45 convertors. Don't ram an RJ11 into the patch panel, it will work but may damage a couple of pins dering that port useless if you ever decide to use it for network again.