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How can permies earn 6 figures nowdays?

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    #11
    I wonder what would happen if we had a Nationwide "NO IT SUPPORT" Strike for a day or two..hell, even a week. Right across the whole country.

    I know it wouldn't exactly win hearts and minds across the whole board, but sometimes you need to wield the baseball bat in order to stick up for yourself.

    And before you say "what about mission critical systems ?", my response would be, "The Firemen went on strike", and that was supported by the majority of the UK.

    Is IT in the same league as the Fire Service ? The Doctors ? The Police ?

    What underpins all these services ?

    0's and 1's

    Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

    C.S. Lewis

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      #12
      Originally posted by Board Game Geek
      I wonder what would happen if we had a Nationwide "NO IT SUPPORT" Strike for a day or two..hell, even a week. Right across the whole country.
      Chaos, and anarchy would rule.

      What would it affect?
      Hospitals - NHS
      Police
      Air traffic control
      Traffic control
      The military
      banks
      Gas supplies
      Electricity supplies
      water supplies
      deliveries
      shops
      TV
      Radio
      Major Transport co's
      etc. etc.


      There would be riots, Deaths in hospitals, air crashes, road fatalities, food shortages, water and power shortages. The list is endless.

      So! everybody up for it next monday

      PS. after causing that sort of chaos, what would your life, let alone your job be worth.
      Last edited by Diver; 23 July 2007, 23:49.
      Confusion is a natural state of being

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        #13
        Originally posted by dotnetter
        I remember when I was a bit younger, I dropped this girl off at her house after a night out, it was MASSIVE, boat outside, two mercs in the drive, double garage etc, she said her dad earned around 150k a year, I asked what he did and she said he was a computer programmer. Anyway found out he worked on ATM software.

        I thought wow luckily I'm in the game

        But now, I get permie jobs sent to me for senior C++ positions in the financial industry and banks etc, and the wage is 55-65k.

        I mean someone with 15 years + with C++ in financial should be on more than that no?

        Anyway I know you can earn six figures as a contractor but how as a permie? Not that I want to be a permie I want to earn nine figures through my company lol

        Am I deluded or did permies earn alot more back then (bear in mind Ive only been in the industry for 8 years)
        If you were any good then yes, you would be. It all boils down to your individual circumstances and the choices you make in your career path.

        That said, I don't make 150k... yet!

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          #14
          Originally posted by dotnetter
          But now, I get permie jobs sent to me for senior C++ positions in the financial industry and banks etc, and the wage is 55-65k.

          I mean someone with 15 years + with C++ in financial should be on more than that no?
          Have you factored in the million pound bonus everyone in finance gets at the end of every year?

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            #15
            Originally posted by dang65
            Have you factored in the million pound bonus everyone in finance gets at the end of every year?
            The bonus is very dependant on your rating. Here the bonus last year ranged from 0% to 100% of salary.

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              #16
              Originally posted by dotnetter
              ...at her house after a night out, it was MASSIVE, boat outside, two mercs in the drive...
              Tewkesbury?

              It's a lucky dip at the moment; each morning there's something new in the front garden.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Chugnut
                Tewkesbury?

                It's a lucky dip at the moment; each morning there's something new in the front garden.
                LOL

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                  #18
                  Salaries have definately gone down and the situation will get worse. I used to earn a permie wage of 50k 8 years ago (and then 70k 4 years ago) and these days if I went for a permie job I would only get the 50k again.

                  IT is becoming increasingly downgraded in professional status.

                  Anyway, my aim is to save my contract earnings and invest for the near future so that I don't have to worry about working in IT much longer.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by dotnetter
                    I remember when I was a bit younger, I dropped this girl off at her house after a night out, it was MASSIVE, boat outside, two mercs in the drive, double garage etc, she said her dad earned around 150k a year, I asked what he did and she said he was a computer programmer. Anyway found out he worked on ATM software.
                    To people on the outside, it used to be the case that EVERYONE in IT is "a computer programmer".

                    When I was designing electronic circuits using CAD/CAE, my mum and sisters always described me as "a computer programmer".

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                      #20
                      I think this answers my question.

                      http://www.baselinemag.com/article2/...2152052,00.asp

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