Glasgow Bombers...

[Old Greg]

There is never any excuse for killing innocent people.

Unless they're Jews of course (or perhaps that never happened, or perhaps they were all guilty anyway.

[Causus Deli]

He's had a funny way of showing he doesn't give a hoot about Jews - funny why he's botherd to right so much about them - and how it's been negative. Funny how you should defend him. Their real agenda is patent to everyone but they'll always find apologists like you.

I have to say I haven't read any of his 'rantings' about Jews because I don't give a hoot. I have no problem with people of any religion who blend into our society and add value, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs. They do not try and tell us we are scum and impose any backward ways on us.

I took a cursory look at the holocaust things and I have little to say apart from why can he not have a view that the extent is questionable. It matters not 500K, 5 Million or 50 Million what is the difference does it make it any more/less noteworthy. Why are people happy to reestimate upwards all the time, it does remind me of the farsical Iraq death estimations. Still it matters not to me, nor anything more than an academic exercise to Griffin I would suggest.

It is clear people herein, present company excepted, choose not to read the BNP manifesto and follow the line 'we all know what their real agenda is' like sheep.

[Causus Deli]

Unless they're Jews of course (or perhaps that never happened, or perhaps they were all guilty anyway.

You are obsessed, it happened, the extent is not important apart from understanding why people under/over estimate in the first place. I have much time for the Israeli cause in the ME and admire their restraint.

[Causus Deli]

The BNP have everything to do with Jews, the Nzis and the Holocaust. They're a fascist party led by a holocauset denier and packed full of violent anti-semitic thugs. It is emotive and it would be convenient for a Nazi like you if I dropped it. Which is why I won't.

Oh please, change the friggin record. Do tell me about any reported BNP thuggery in the last few years. Or is that 'everyone knows if they could they would be involved in thuggery'? FFS!

[Old Greg]

I have to say I haven't read any of his 'rantings' about Jews because I don't give a hoot. I have no problem with people of any religion who blend into our society and add value, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs. They do not try and tell us we are scum and impose any backward ways on us.

I took a cursory look at the holocaust things and I have little to say apart from why can he not have a view that the extent is questionable. It matters not 500K, 5 Million or 50 Million what is the difference does it make it any more/less noteworthy. Why are people happy to reestimate upwards all the time, it does remind me of the farsical Iraq death estimations. Still it matters not to me, nor anything more than an academic exercise to Griffin I would suggest.

It is clear people herein, present company excepted, choose not to read the BNP manifesto and follow the line 'we all know what their real agenda is' like sheep.

So, just now he didn't give a hoot about Jews. Now, it's you that doesn't give a hoot about his rantings about Jews. I bet you don't. It's not politically acceptable for you to say you're against Jews but it's a reasonable assumption from your national socialism.

You reveal your true opinions still further by suggesting that Griffin's has 'a view that the extent is questionable'. He said: "True Revisionists will not be fooled by this new twist to the sorry tale of the Hoax of the Twentieth Century." in condemnation of David Irving after he admitted in his trial in Austria:

"I've changed my views. I spoke then about Auschwitz and gas chambers based on my knowledge at the time, but by 1991 when I came across the Eichmann papers, I wasn't saying that any more and I wouldn't say that now. The Nazis did murder millions of Jews. ..I made a mistake by saying there were no gas chambers, I am absolutely without doubt that the Holocaust took place. I apologise to those few I might have offended though I remain very proud of the 30 books I have written."

This is a fascist trick of Griffin's to try to remove guilt from the Nazis to rehabilitate fascism (and invent a Jewish conspiracy theory of inventing the gas chambers). They'll accept some Jews died of disease, neglect, the odd execution in concentration camps but not that there was an attempt to murder them all in gas chambers. And they'll sometimes chuck in that the Jews brought in on themselves. That's the difference between 500,000 and 5,000,000.

I don't read the manifestos of the National Front or all the other fascist parties for 2 reasons:

1 I do know what they like.
2 You don't have to eat sh1t to know that it tastes bad.

[Causus Deli]

So, just now he didn't give a hoot about Jews. Now, it's you that doesn't give a hoot about his rantings about Jews. I bet you don't. It's not politically acceptable for you to say you're against Jews but it's a reasonable assumption from your national socialism.

You reveal your true opinions still further by suggesting that Griffin's has 'a view that the extent is questionable'. He said: "True Revisionists will not be fooled by this new twist to the sorry tale of the Hoax of the Twentieth Century." in condemnation of David Irving after he admitted in his trial in Austria:

"I've changed my views. I spoke then about Auschwitz and gas chambers based on my knowledge at the time, but by 1991 when I came across the Eichmann papers, I wasn't saying that any more and I wouldn't say that now. The Nazis did murder millions of Jews. ..I made a mistake by saying there were no gas chambers, I am absolutely without doubt that the Holocaust took place. I apologise to those few I might have offended though I remain very proud of the 30 books I have written."

This is a fascist trick of Griffin's to try to remove guilt from the Nazis to rehabilitate fascism (and invent a Jewish conspiracy theory of inventing the gas chambers). They'll accept some Jews died of disease, neglect, the odd execution in concentration camps but not that there was an attempt to murder them all in gas chambers. And they'll sometimes chuck in that the Jews brought in on themselves. That's the difference between 500,000 and 5,000,000.

I don't read the manifestos of the National Front or all the other fascist parties for 2 reasons:

1 I do know what they like.
2 You don't have to eat sh1t to know that it tastes bad.

Wow it seems you give a hoot. Good luck to you and your tea leaves.

[Old Greg]

Oh please, change the friggin record. Do tell me about any reported BNP thuggery in the last few years. Or is that 'everyone knows if they could they would be involved in thuggery'? FFS!

Plenty of thugs to be found here - plenty of them influential in the BNP (don't know many other parties like that).

Here's a nice one from wiki:

The Robert Cottage case
In October 2006 Robert Cottage, a BNP council election candidate for Colne earlier in the year, "was arrested under the Explosives Act on suspicion of possessing chemicals that may be capable of making an explosion."[135] Cottage's party membership was reported to have lapsed at the time of the arrest. Cottage was also reported as having possessed the largest quantity of explosives of its type ever found in this country.[136] An associate of Cottage, David Bolus Jackson, whom he had met at a BNP meeting[137] was also arrested at this time.

The case came before the Manchester Crown Court on February 12, 2007 and it was claimed by the prosecution on the following day that Cottage had plans to assassinate Tony Blair and Liberal Democrat peer Lord Greaves. Cottage has pleaded guilty to one count of the possession of explosives, but has denied the count pertaining to conspiracy to cause an explosion.[138] In a statement Cottage's wife read in court by the prosecution counsel, he was reported as believing that "civil war" was imminent in the UK.[139]

And another:

Joe Owens, a BNP candidate in Merseyside and former bodyguard to Nick Griffin, has served eight months in prison for sending razor blades in the post to Jewish people and another term for carrying CS gas and knuckledusters.

In the interest of disclosure, I believe the razor blades was a good many years ago, but it didn't put the BNP off selecting him.

[Old Greg]

Wow it seems you give a hoot. Good luck to you and your tea leaves.

Yes, 'giving a hoot' about Jews and the Holocaust may appear odd to a Nazi like you, but I still do it.

[Causus Deli]

Plenty of thugs to be found here - plenty of them influential in the BNP (don't know many other parties like that).

Here's a nice one from wiki:

The Robert Cottage case
In October 2006 Robert Cottage, a BNP council election candidate for Colne earlier in the year, "was arrested under the Explosives Act on suspicion of possessing chemicals that may be capable of making an explosion."[135] Cottage's party membership was reported to have lapsed at the time of the arrest. Cottage was also reported as having possessed the largest quantity of explosives of its type ever found in this country.[136] An associate of Cottage, David Bolus Jackson, whom he had met at a BNP meeting[137] was also arrested at this time.

The case came before the Manchester Crown Court on February 12, 2007 and it was claimed by the prosecution on the following day that Cottage had plans to assassinate Tony Blair and Liberal Democrat peer Lord Greaves. Cottage has pleaded guilty to one count of the possession of explosives, but has denied the count pertaining to conspiracy to cause an explosion.[138] In a statement Cottage's wife read in court by the prosecution counsel, he was reported as believing that "civil war" was imminent in the UK.[139]

And another:

Joe Owens, a BNP candidate in Merseyside and former bodyguard to Nick Griffin, has served eight months in prison for sending razor blades in the post to Jewish people and another term for carrying CS gas and knuckledusters.

In the interest of disclosure, I believe the razor blades was a good many years ago, but it didn't put the BNP off selecting him.

The guy in Manchester was clearly unhinged, his wifes reports of his behaviour should have told you that. He did nothing apart from have some things and horror of horrors 'BNP literature' in the house. Now can you give me a list of perverts etc that are members of other parties, indeed how many of the asian on white violent racist attacks are BNP and how many are supporters of other parties? 1 cookhoo doesn't make a spring.

[Causus Deli]

Yes, 'giving a hoot' about Jews and the Holocaust may appear odd to a Nazi like you, but I still do it.

Do keep up, it was I didn' give a hoot about one-eyeds views on jews etc. Who is the one-eye around here? Twinkles and gazes, twinkles and gazes.