Originally posted by Rantor
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Originally posted by anally retentive
honestly, good education has much less to do with resources, and much more to do with parents' aspiration for their children.
Perhaps we should neuter them and ship in more Indians. It would be cheaper than investing in decent universal education.Comment
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Originally posted by pickleWith an ever growing underclass of low achieving, stupid, lazy people?Comment
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Originally posted by chicaneThe tone of your post suggests that this is something that hasn't already happened.
Its happening right now. But its a relativley recent phenomenon, IMHO.Comment
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Originally posted by picklePerhaps we should neuter them and ship in more Indians. It would be cheaper than investing in decent universal education.
Apols to any vikings if this is bollox.....Comment
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I'm Sally Anne likeI remember the good old days of this site when people used to moan about serious contractor related issues like house prices and immigration. How times have changed!?Comment
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Originally posted by pickleBut if only clever, hard working people go on to produce clever hard working kids, and there is no state intervention, where will that leave us? With an ever growing underclass of low achieving, stupid, lazy people? Is such a "Liverpudlian-ization" of our working classes not something we should try and avoid?
Perhaps we should neuter them and ship in more Indians. It would be cheaper than investing in decent universal education.
at the same time, there's something else that is screwing up our youth. when i got my desmond in 1987 from a crappy collegel of higher education, i was still in the top 7% of my peer group. these days i'd be in the top 40-50%. unless i'm missing something and kids are roughly 7 times more intelligent than my mates and i, this means that degrees have been devalued massively in the past 20 years. therefore there's a whole swaythe of grads expecting good graduate jobs who just won't get them. it also means that employers are raising the entrance bar for positions that 20 years ago would never have been graduate jobs. either way, there's going to be a large number of kids at the top end of the system who are going to be just as disenfranchised as those at the bottom.
if more kids did plumbing & brick-laying instead of gdoing meaningless media studies degrees at bolton "university" then maybe we wouldn't be importing so many latvian tradesmen....!!They seek him here, they seek him there. He must be playing hide & seek.Comment
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Originally posted by anally retentiveif more kids did plumbing & brick-laying instead of gdoing meaningless media studies degrees at bolton "university" then maybe we wouldn't be importing so many latvian tradesmen....!!
The problem is with the work ethic (or lack thereof) amongst the 'working class' in modern British society.
At least the Latvians et al have some sort of ambition and drive and don't expect to be paid for doing sod all.
You've come right out the other side of the forest of irony and ended up in the desert of wrong.
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Originally posted by anally retentivewhen i got my desmond in 1987 from a crappy collegel of higher education, i was still in the top 7% of my peer group. these days i'd be in the top 40-50%. unless i'm missing something and kids are roughly 7 times more intelligent than my mates and i, this means that degrees have been devalued massively in the past 20 years.
On almost any measure of a country’s success, higher education rates are always seen as a positive. There are direct correlations with lower unemployment rates, higher productivity, GDP, etc etc. The answer to places like “Bolton University” isn’t to shut them down and open up bricklaying colleges, it is to continually strive to improve the quality of teaching and range of disciplines on offer.
Onwards and upwards and all that.Last edited by pickle; 22 June 2007, 11:23.Comment
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