Returning to the Dark Side

[Moose423956]

I did it this week. 43k. Boo hoo.

[DaveB]

I'd hire developer 1 and then put so much ******* pressure and tulip on the **** that they produce the output of developer 2.

HTH

Or they stick two fingers up to you and walk.

[Bright Spark]

Hypothetically speaking, which of the following developers would you choose for your organisation?

1) Somebody on a salary of 40k who could generate an extra 200K profit in a year
2) Somebody on a salary of 80k who could generate an extra 1M profit in a year.

3) Bob Shawadiwadi saving costs of 60k in a year.

HTH

[VectraMan]

I'd be tempted by 60K, but I doubt anybody would offer me that. I was offered a permie job by my first client, and the words the MD used were "it depends what lifestyle you're looking for", which says it all really.

I'd be much more tempted to work for a lot less if I got to be a director and shareholder of a small company.

[Xenophon]

£80k+

[n5gooner]

£80k+

what is it that you do BTW ?

[Numptycorner]

First rule of permiedom

we pay less but expect more

[Xenophon]

what is it that you do BTW ?

Project, programme, change management. Whatever term is flavour of the month at the time.

[EternalOptimist]

I'd hire developer 1 and then put so much ******* pressure and tulip on the **** that they produce the output of developer 2.

HTH

it wouldnt work.
give a guy a spade and tell him to dig a field over - it'll take him a day
stand behind him with a whip - he'll do it in 3/4 a day
crack the whip - he'll do it in half a day
whip him and he'll do it in 1/3 of a day

give a guy a sheet full of numbers and tell him to add them up in his head
- he'll do it in an hour
stand behind him with a whip - it'll take two hours
crack the whip - three hour
whip him - it'll never get done


its just not worth while trying to put pressure on some types of worker - developers have to get their drive from inside

[VectraMan]

Project, programme, change management. Whatever term is flavour of the month at the time.

Yes, but what do you actually do?