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Getting seriously buttered up to go perm

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    #21
    AND...it shouldn't affect references if you do it right - as a permie, you cannot be given a bad reference just because of "health problems". Check your workers rights manuals!
    The pope is a tard.

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      #22
      Originally posted by SallyAnne
      AND...it shouldn't affect references if you do it right - as a permie, you cannot be given a bad reference just because of "health problems". Check your workers rights manuals!
      thats correct, but they can refuse to give a referance......
      SA says;
      Well you looked so stylish I thought you batted for the other camp - thats like the ultimate compliment!

      I couldn't imagine you ever having a hair out of place!

      n5gooner is awarded +5 Xeno Geek Points.
      (whatever these are)

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        #23
        A permie in my office is having paid leave for the last 7-8 months due to depression .Another one broke his leg and is off for 6 months.Joys of being permi.

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          #24
          Just because they are not offering an extension now doesn't mean they wont be work in the future, especially if you have been there before acted professionally and the client likes you.

          Lack of profesionalism looks bad on you and reduces the chances the client would want you back or would want to take on another contractor in future, which is bad for all of us.

          And no, they can't give a bad reference but they can refuse to give one at all. Employers will read between the, non-existant, lines and work it out for themselves.
          "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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            #25
            I'm not in contracting for the money, I'm in it for the lifestyle. I could hypothetically be bought though - but it would have to be £100k+. Even then I'd probably end up handing in my resignation after about 18 months by which time I'd be sick of the politics...
            Listen to my last album on Spotify

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              #26
              contracting is about risk and adventure, not knowing what is going to
              happen in the next few months, trying to seek opportunities, keeps me
              excited and interested in what I am doing, also motivates me to learn
              new stuff.

              knowing that I'll be stuck in a place as permie is a bit like serving a
              prison sentence.

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                #27
                Its exactly what I'm gonna do. they have tabled a slightly better offer which included backdating my start date to jan so that I get the full annual leave allocation in between now and jan and bonus pro rate stuff. In addition, the role they have in mind is a blank canvas...so I can more or less book any courses I like. I am looking at it like contracting=surfing and permie=waxing. At some stage the board will need waxing and now is the time.
                Yes the money is less, but I'll be back next year with a new board to surf on bigger waves.
                Thanks for your replies, I will continue to look on these boards for laughs and serious stuff. Good luck everyone

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                  #28
                  Your salary now is

                  £400 * 225 * 0.9 (to take account of employers contributions)

                  = £81000

                  If you have to travel then subtract travel expenses before tax.

                  £30,000 is a mighty big cut.
                  I'm alright Jack

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BlasterBates
                    Your salary now is

                    £400 * 225 * 0.9 (to take account of employers contributions)

                    = £81000

                    If you have to travel then subtract travel expenses before tax.

                    £30,000 is a mighty big cut.

                    Shhhhh!

                    One less contractor!

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                      #30
                      In 5 years if you stay contracting you'll be 100 grand better off after 5 years. A 100 grand on the stock market will earn you 10 grand a year. After 10 years you'll be quarter of a million better off and 20 years we're talking around a million.

                      Just that you are aware of the financial implications.
                      I'm alright Jack

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