The Cost of 4x4s

[Troll]

There are plenty of torquey 4 wheel drives that don't chuck out loads of sh1t. You certainly don't need a 5 litre v8 petrol, when a much smaller diesel has more torque, and when towing torque is king not BHP.

My 4x4's are diesel... does that mean you luv me?

[King Cnvt]

So if the ban 4x4's, how will people tow caravans and boats..

If you want a fecking boat, live by the sea.

If you want to go on holiday, book a hotel or caravan at the place you will be staying.

Ban all forms of transport!

[Euro-commuter]

If you want a fecking boat, live by the sea.

If you want to go on holiday, book a hotel or caravan at the place you will be staying.

Ban all forms of transport!

If you think that's so bizarre as to be funny, you have not been paying attention. Many in and around the nanny state have long realised that no amount of tinkering with the tech, or the tax, will get the numbers right for what they want in the way of consumption and pollution; so the realisation has set in (perhaps not publicly yet) that people will simply have to travel less.

You don't even need to vote Labour in the next election to see it come about (though that would certainly do it), Cameron will do it to you too.

[Troll]

If you think that's so bizarre as to be funny, you have not been paying attention. Many in and around the nanny state have long realised that no amount of tinkering with the tech, or the tax, will get the numbers right for what they want in the way of consumption and pollution; so the realisation has set in (perhaps not publicly yet) that people will simply have to travel less.

You don't even need to vote Labour in the next election to see it come about (though that would certainly do it), Cameron will do it to you too.

So we de-construct the Industrial revolution & return to cottage industry, localised produce, a nation of share cropers eeking out a subsistance living?

[angusglover]

If you want a fecking boat, live by the sea.

If you want to go on holiday, book a hotel or caravan at the place you will be staying.

Ban all forms of transport!

Miserable fooker...go get laid or have a lie down...

[Euro-commuter]

So we de-construct the Industrial revolution & return to cottage industry, localised produce, a nation of share cropers eeking out a subsistance living?

Except politicians, who will be exempt.

[gingerjedi]

So we de-construct the Industrial revolution & return to cottage industry, localised produce, a nation of share cropers eeking out a subsistance living?

Sounds like heaven, after all thats what most people choose to do when they retire!

I like this story http://www.protolink.com/MexicanFisherman.html

[King Cnvt]

Miserable fooker...go get laid or have a lie down...

Ban sex and naps as well!

[angusglover]

Ban sex and naps as well!

You arte not gonna get any allies with that kind of talk. Now go wash yer mouth out with carbolic soap....

[Rantor]

So we de-construct the Industrial revolution & return to cottage industry, localised produce, a nation of share cropers eeking out a subsistance living?

There are some 'furure-historians' (I know!) who have postulated that might just come to pass. Even without the issues around climate, there is the possibility that energy supplies may not be resolvable in, say, 100 yrs time. Another nice theeory is that the imbalances in the global economy are unsustainable and will lead to a collapse in the global or economy or we do what we alwaysdo and have a big old war.

Either way, its back to sefdom for th lot of us....or not as th case may be.