Oh Dear: Is there any other country in Europe where this would cause outrage ?

[Rantor]

The ironing is not lost on me.

Making some sort of stand can be as little as agreeing with Ms/Mrs/Miss Hodge on a bulletin board or as extreme as voting BNP.

It is my opinion that things have gone too far on all sorts of issues and the only way to do anything is to do something radical.
I am still debating the BNP route. Electing a couple may be enough to start something.
I do not believe that even if they came to power that they would be able to do half the things the scare mongers suggest, though NL are rapidly dismantling the safe guards that would stop them.

What I can not abide either on this forum or in the real world is all those people who are so full on about rights of democracy and free speach who then go on to refuse the BNP and others access to those rights.
Everybody goes into hysteria whenever the BNP or some radical non PC idea is raised sort of "oooohhhh its those Nazis coming back".

Well you may have noticed I have a bit of an aversion to extreme-right feckwittery and I too take a stand on this subject!

Your last paragraph is reverting back to the faux victim mode. No-one is denying anyones rights to free speech but equally I remain 100% percent convinced that those rights would disappear pretty sharpish under a far right regime.

I dunno, I would have personally been more concerned about the current governments rapid centralisation of power, erosion of the individual's legal rights, passing vast numbers of enabling acts ceding powers to non-elected bodies, PFI, pissing away the NHS investments and messianic foreign policy adventures - but thats us PC brigade types just missing the point as usual.

One last thing, the BNP need lots and lots of immigrants otherwise they're totally shagged

[wendigo100]

One last thing, the BNP need lots and lots of immigrants otherwise they're totally shagged

Indeed. As we knock the BNP, consider why they are gaining in popularity.

[GreenerGrass]

Good post from Old Greg ("could you learn to love Old Greg?"), the poison is never far from the surface of this party.

As some other posters have mentioned we are already heading for a 1984-style Big Brother state, pretty soon every single personal movement, by foot, car, bin or internet will be tracked by this government and its agencies.

Worrying about a tiny group of neo-nazi thugs is the least of everyone's woes, the totalitarian nightmare facing Britain is down to the vision of socialists (and one pro-USA madman), not facists.

[threaded]

Good post from Old Greg ("could you learn to love Old Greg?"), the poison is never far from the surface of this party.

As some other posters have mentioned we are already heading for a 1984-style Big Brother state, pretty soon every single personal movement, by foot, car, bin or internet will be tracked by this government and its agencies.

Worrying about a tiny group of neo-nazi thugs is the least of everyone's woes, the totalitarian nightmare facing Britain is down to the vision of socialists (and one pro-USA madman), not facists.

World Socialists, National Socialists: is there really any difference when push comes to shove? Their actions over the last hundred or so years should be enough to give everyone fair warning.

[Old Greg]

Good post from Old Greg ("could you learn to love Old Greg?")

Yes sir, thank ya sir.

[Stan]

The Blackburn panorama program gave another example where a young white girl was in mortal danger for simply being seen with a Muslim lad.

While there are serious problems with lack of integration I don't remember seeing that example on the panorama programme.

Apart from that Causus Deli you seem to have no real distinction between people who aren't british and people who aren't white. The vast majority of those muslims you are going on about in blackburn probably are british. This policy is about nationality not race or culture.

[sasguru]

What I can not abide either on this forum or in the real world is all those people who are so full on about rights of democracy and free speach who then go on to refuse the BNP and others access to those rights.
Everybody goes into hysteria whenever the BNP or some radical non PC idea is raised sort of "oooohhhh its those Nazis coming back".

Are you so naive or so poorly educated that you don't know that fascist parties have in the past used democracy to get to power (on the back of public disullusion) and then aboloished it?

[The Farmer]

World Socialists, National Socialists: is there really any difference when push comes to shove?

Yes.

All politics is local.

The voters are only interested in legislation affects them directly.

Many a candidate has won a cushy Westminster job on this basis.

"Threaded for PM...That's what I say" - (ATW)

I think Milan shoud be PM. He has the vison to realise that the future lies in .NET.

Farms

[Causus Deli]

Latest

Well, well, all the things I was saying are now echoed by official sources and we can now deal with the ongoing farce that is uncontrolled immigration to the detriment of the indigenous population. Well they’ll pay lip service for a while and hope it goes away, it for sure will not.

3 major issues, firstly we are over full meaning our own people cannot get the services that they deserve as subjects of this once great island. Second we are getting disease in huge quantities, mainly HIV which costs 15K a year pp to treat. We have, as reported by the government last week the ‘vast majority’ as of Gay or African origin. Based on current rates of infection (seen over the last 10 years in the indigenous population), and the expanded numbers we have now (recall only 4K in the straight white population), we will have well over 1 million cases (costing 15 billion a year) in just 20 years reducing us in effect to a third world country; as a result of the third world. Thirdly based on breeding rates in religious groups we will be a majority Asian origin state in 3-4 generations. Look at the problems we are having now with about 2 million of one religion, imagine that 6-7 fold larger.

We will long be gone and as fairly well to do people we can, in the meantime, head for the hills and all this will not likely affect us directly in our lifetimes. But it will affect your children and grandchildren. People say that we are an island of immigrants anyway, with all the invasions we have had over the last tens of centuries. What they fail to say is that only small numbers of invaders actually stayed, nothing like the 12% and rising figure we have imported to date. So what anyway that was then and this is right now, affecting our lives right now, maybe not so much yours and mine yet but the poor unfortunates that socialists pretend to care about but in reality Marxists only care about using.

I shall not be around; the level of discourse is embarrassingly poor. A large salary does not imbibe one with the knowledge some crassly bestow upon themselves.

[Old Greg]

Well, well, all the things I was saying are now echoed by official sources and we can now deal with the ongoing farce that is uncontrolled immigration to the detriment of the indigenous population. Well they’ll pay lip service for a while and hope it goes away, it for sure will not.

3 major issues, firstly we are over full meaning our own people cannot get the services that they deserve as subjects of this once great island. Second we are getting disease in huge quantities, mainly HIV which costs 15K a year pp to treat. We have, as reported by the government last week the ‘vast majority’ as of Gay or African origin. Based on current rates of infection (seen over the last 10 years in the indigenous population), and the expanded numbers we have now (recall only 4K in the straight white population), we will have well over 1 million cases (costing 15 billion a year) in just 20 years reducing us in effect to a third world country; as a result of the third world. Thirdly based on breeding rates in religious groups we will be a majority Asian origin state in 3-4 generations. Look at the problems we are having now with about 2 million of one religion, imagine that 6-7 fold larger.

We will long be gone and as fairly well to do people we can, in the meantime, head for the hills and all this will not likely affect us directly in our lifetimes. But it will affect your children and grandchildren. People say that we are an island of immigrants anyway, with all the invasions we have had over the last tens of centuries. What they fail to say is that only small numbers of invaders actually stayed, nothing like the 12% and rising figure we have imported to date. So what anyway that was then and this is right now, affecting our lives right now, maybe not so much yours and mine yet but the poor unfortunates that socialists pretend to care about but in reality Marxists only care about using.

I shall not be around; the level of discourse is embarrassingly poor. A large salary does not imbibe one with the knowledge some crassly bestow upon themselves.

More BNP-style propaganda laced with unsourced statistics and wild extrapolations. And the usual BNP-style nonsense about Marxist bogeymen. Let's pick out one in particular. 'Thirdly based on breeding rates in religious groups we will be a majority Asian origin state in 3-4 generations.' Is this from the unnamed 'official sources' or would you like to explain how you came to this figure?