Clueless .....

[pickle]

[QUOTE=Denny]

I was self employed for 4 years before becoming a limited.

Where's the freedom in behaving like a 2nd class perma temp with no rights?
Being self employed is about working when, how and wherever you choose, surely! Not all of us want to get dolled up for work everyday and slumming it on commuter trains when it isn't necessary. It's a horrible experience.

Clearly, you don't live in London.

I do live in London, as it goes. I think maybe you are chasing the wrong market. Big corporates are never going to operate in any other way. Still, there are plenty of clients that have slack dress codes, and home working, if thats all you are concerned about.

You need to provide a product or service that actually meets a real need of a real group of customers. You cant just force customers to want want you would like to provide. Otherwise we would all be driving round in these:
http://www.sinclairc5.com/

[Churchill]

I will ignore that until my education program becomes well and truly futile

You're only delaying the inevitable!

[shaunbhoy]

This is childish and unnecessary.

Grow up!

This is CUK!!

[Churchill]

This is childish and unnecessary.

Grow up!

This is Shaunbhoy!!

[SallyAnne]

I've been contracting on and off for over 20 years now and I still don't know what IR35 is...

[andy]

I've been contracting on and off for over 20 years now and I still don't know what IR35 is...

I met a chap once who was contracting with the same client for 7 years and blissfuly unaware of any ir35 malarky.
Ignorance is bliss.

[pickle]

[QUOTE=Denny]

The product or service should be the field of expertise, not a willingness to bend to their whims for comformity that have little to do with getting deliverables out to the right standard and on time.

Why don't you read by bloody posts properly!

Why dont you engage your brain. The "conformity" is exactly what these big corps want. How expesnivse do you think it would be for, say, a city bank with , say, serveral thousand cotnractors on their books, to manage those suppliers/contractors/temps if they all supplied their services to their own T+Cs. It would be a management nightmare and negate most of the cost saving that using freelance proffesionals provides.

The "bending to their whims" is part of their "need", in addition to your skills / expertise. Either service the need of the clients, or go find a different target market.

[shaunbhoy]

pickle,
denny imagines that the world is some kind of soap opera in which they are the lead figure. I blame their lefty roots for distorting reality.

[wendigo100]

My business sells a service - that IS THE POINT! It doesn't sell myself down the river to suit the whims and aspirations of some money grabbing pimp or jealous permie client who just wants the satisfaction of inconveniencing me to the hilt with unnecessary travelling and rule following but with their finger on the 'instant termination' button when it suits them.

Denny, despite the drivel we post on CUK sometimes, most of us are businesslike in the way we run our professional lives.

You appear to demand more from agents and clients than most on here, which is your choice, but it doesn't make you any more of a "business". You are still a contractor selling your services, just like the rest of us.

And as for selling yourself down the river - firstly, he who pays the piper calls the tune, and secondly, do you really think clients take contractors on to get the satisfaction of inconveniencing them to the hilt? That would be bizarre, not to say expensive!

[Churchill]

Denny, despite the drivel we post on CUK sometimes, most of us are businesslike in the way we run our professional lives.

You appear to demand more from agents and clients than most on here, but that doesn't make you any more of a "business". You are still a contractor selling your services, just like the rest of us.

And as for selling yourself down the river - firstly, he who pays the piper calls the tune, and secondly, do you really think clients take contractors on to get the satisfaction of inconveniencing them to the hilt? That would be bizarre, not to say expensive!

I wouldn't take her too seriously, it's probably "Rag Week".

IGMC