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    #21
    ja ja ja

    morning Spod,

    for the millionth time after paying for the miele et al, the basen if off the shopping list

    How's the Superb ? Shall I get a 3 year old 2.5tdi tiptronic ?

    People complain about the passat's reliability - doesn't that make the Superb (essentially the same car) have reliability questions like the passat ? on the other side in CZ people say the Superb has much higher build quality than the Octavia as it comes from a different factory. And others argue that the quality of the Czech work is higher than the german ! who knows.

    Milan.

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      #22
      The rule of thumb used to be the land should cost 30% of the value of the finished house.

      Here in Oxfordshire you just cannot get land at a reasonable price, even with a crappy house on it. I've seen a few where there is DPP for a nice house (3-4 bed detached usually) and to buy the land with the original house on costs you £5-6-700,000 (and yes I have seen one at £700,000). Then you have the cost and ballache of a build...

      Older and ...well, just older!!

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        #23
        looks like you need to think about leaving the Island !

        Milan.

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          #24
          Building costs have a rule of thumb £80 per square foot for the shell

          £40 for finishing.

          Just doing an extention that because the builders a relative comes in at 100k in the sarf east. its 1000 sq feet so quite large.

          You can build a standard box for slightly less but not very interesting.

          Building regs are the biggest problem in this country, for doing self build. And they seem to change all the time.

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            #25
            Well I don't know about the UK market. In Germany some people (thousands) try to do it cheaply and end up in a ruin, and don't usually have enough to tear it down, as by the time it's clear they live in a ruin they're on the verge of personal bankruptcy. Normally by this stage the building company has gone bankrupt, and the ex-Managing Director is managing a new company. Mind you I think in the UK the situation is a lot better.
            I'm alright Jack

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              #26
              Originally posted by milanbenes
              he he land grabbing off the neighbours eh

              Milan.
              Just selling my grandad's old house and we have discovered he pinched quite chunk of land off the neighbours and built a garage on it !

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                #27
                Originally posted by rootsnall
                Just selling my grandad's old house and we have discovered he pinched quite chunk of land off the neighbours and built a garage on it !
                I don't know about neighbours land but if you pinch other land (from highways etc) then as long as you keep it quiet for 12 years it becomes 'possessory land' - yours in name but there are limits to what you can do with it.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ratewhore
                  The rule of thumb used to be the land should cost 30% of the value of the finished house.

                  Here in Oxfordshire you just cannot get land at a reasonable price, even with a crappy house on it. I've seen a few where there is DPP for a nice house (3-4 bed detached usually) and to buy the land with the original house on costs you £5-6-700,000 (and yes I have seen one at £700,000). Then you have the cost and ballache of a build...

                  It's over 50% even Up Nth ! There are too many amateur developers ( inc me ! ) and some pros bidding for every scrap of land at the moment. The numbers don't add up and are relying on house prices continuing to climb. The longest standing and richest builder round my way smiles if quized on the silly prices, he's not buying, he's still building on the land he picked up for peanuts when the last batch of builders went bust in the 90s.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by SoupDragon
                    I don't know about neighbours land but if you pinch other land (from highways etc) then as long as you keep it quiet for 12 years it becomes 'possessory land' - yours in name but there are limits to what you can do with it.
                    I just picked it up from reading the deeds last week, I should run it by the solicitors before it goes on the market but I'm hoping I can just pass the issue on to the buyer. Its an old terrace needing work and prime BTL territory and I don't think will really effect the value much.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Troll
                      As always - the trouble is getting the land - so many chasing with a view to doing the same - best bet is find a bungalow , demolish & rebuild - but it is a pricey way of doing things
                      - there is a usefull magazine - self build home ..I think
                      Looked into this myself a few years ago but as Troll rightly says, it's hard to get the land nowadays.

                      The main magazine is called Homebuilding & Renovating http://tinyurl.com/3dl9n7 and they also have exhibitions throughout the year (free entrance) http://tinyurl.com/2jd7w3

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