UK's Response to Iran: Discuss

[Not So Wise]

I must say I side with the Americans in this:

Think about your average grunt on the ground (UK or US, but especially US) , 18 to 24.

Most likely poor background, minimal education, pig ignorant of the world and the "bigger picture"

Do you really want someone like that basically deciding if your entire country goes to war? I don't

The soldiers did right
The Gov so far has done right

If the soldiers are held much beyond 4 weeks, then war should become an option (though not a guarantee)
If the soldiers get harmed or have to go though a show trial then it should be war

[dang65]

This will probably sound like a crackpot conspiracy theory, but who cares...

It's seemed to me for the last few years that the more extreme nutcases in the Middle East have a common policy of deliberately provoking the West into war. It's worked brilliantly for them. It makes us look aggressive and stupid - we pile in, destroy the infrastructure, occupy the country and then get bogged down in an unwinable guerrilla war until we finally have to pull out one of these days, tails between our legs like the infidel dogs we are.

The more fronts they can open, the more the unrest will be stirred in the West and the more sympathy the 'underdogs' will get from the rest of the World.

It seems stupid to sacrifice your country to occupation by a far more powerful foreign force, but if they keep this up long enough then it will really start to weaken that power, both physically and politically and morally. And what have they got to lose anyway? The radical loonies I mean, not the general populations of these countries. They're just the innocent victims of the whole thing, as always.

I reckon we're being lured into an ambush which we'll never recover from.

[EternalOptimist]

An ambush, I like the sound of that.

We should fill a patrol boat with SBS and SAS , armed to the teeth, get a sub in there, a carrier nearby and sail the patrol boat around the shat al arab singing 'come an have a go if you think yer ard enough'.


Anyone who knows anything about the military knows that the troops did the right thing. They followed the ROE and their orders. You ever meet these guys and call them pussies to their face and would have to stick a toothbrush up your @rse to brush your teeth.

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"Passport to Pimlico"

[Hart-floot]

If the soldiers are held much beyond 4 weeks, then war should become an option (though not a guarantee)
If the soldiers get harmed or have to go though a show trial then it should be war

No point in fighting a war you'd loose.

The Iranians only need to threaten to close the Straights of Hormuz or lobb a missile at a tanker leaving Ras Tanura oil terminal and your contract would soon be over cos the oil price would go 150-200+ dollars a barrell.

[Barriebazg]

An ambush, I like the sound of that.

We should fill a patrol boat with SBS and SAS , armed to the teeth, get a sub in there, a carrier nearby and sail the patrol boat around the shat al arab singing 'come an have a go if you think yer ard enough'.


Anyone who knows anything about the military knows that the troops did the right thing. They followed the ROE and their orders. You ever meet these guys and call them pussies to their face and would have to stick a toothbrush up your @rse to brush your teeth.

Well said EO

[AlfredJPruffock]

This will probably sound like a crackpot conspiracy theory, but who cares...

It's seemed to me for the last few years that the more extreme nutcases in the Middle East have a common policy of deliberately provoking the West into war. It's worked brilliantly for them. It makes us look aggressive and stupid - we pile in, destroy the infrastructure, occupy the country and then get bogged down in an unwinable guerrilla war until we finally have to pull out one of these days, tails between our legs like the infidel dogs we are.

The more fronts they can open, the more the unrest will be stirred in the West and the more sympathy the 'underdogs' will get from the rest of the World.

It seems stupid to sacrifice your country to occupation by a far more powerful foreign force, but if they keep this up long enough then it will really start to weaken that power, both physically and politically and morally. And what have they got to lose anyway? The radical loonies I mean, not the general populations of these countries. They're just the innocent victims of the whole thing, as always.

I reckon we're being lured into an ambush which we'll never recover from.

Thats one view - but there is another.

If you ask - who profits from these Middle East Wars ?

Then the answer is - The Millitary Industrial Complex - that is why the US has no intention - as long as Bush is in power - of withdrawiing from any War as long as it generates massive profits.

[AlfredJPruffock]

No point in fighting a war you'd loose.

The Iranians only need to threaten to close the Straights of Hormuz or lobb a missile at a tanker leaving Ras Tanura oil terminal and your contract would soon be over cos the oil price would go 150-200+ dollars a barrell.

My understanding is that the US warships - never mind Tankers - have no effective defence against the current Iranian Missile technology - apparently the Sunburst class is virtually unstoppable.

[dang65]

the more extreme nutcases in the Middle East.

The Millitary Industrial Complex

It does seem like they're made for each other.

[Euro-commuter]

This will probably sound like a crackpot conspiracy theory, but who cares...

It's seemed to me for the last few years that the more extreme nutcases in the Middle East have a common policy of deliberately provoking the West into war. It's worked brilliantly for them. It makes us look aggressive and stupid - we pile in, destroy the infrastructure, occupy the country and then get bogged down in an unwinable guerrilla war until we finally have to pull out one of these days, tails between our legs like the infidel dogs we are.

The more fronts they can open, the more the unrest will be stirred in the West and the more sympathy the 'underdogs' will get from the rest of the World.

It seems stupid to sacrifice your country to occupation by a far more powerful foreign force, but if they keep this up long enough then it will really start to weaken that power, both physically and politically and morally. And what have they got to lose anyway? The radical loonies I mean, not the general populations of these countries. They're just the innocent victims of the whole thing, as always.

I reckon we're being lured into an ambush which we'll never recover from.

Agreed. It does seem to me that nobody would have liked Cornwall to sink the Iranian boats more than President Ahmedinejahd (sp?). Some day we may have to oblige him but not yet.