Business vs. Techies

[DaveB]

Having business nous is one thing. Being a suited prat who talks about "blue sky opportunities" and "thinking out of the box" is another.

I've met a lot more techies with business nous than non-techie managers that aren't prats. Dilbert is very true, especially as soon as you move into the financial sector. The PHB is alive and well, I've met him numerous times in numerous guises.

As is "The Boss" character from BoFH.

[Lockhouse]

One of the biggest problems I find is getting someone from "the business" to take responsibility for making decisions.

[DaveB]

One of the biggest problems I find is getting someone from "the business" to take responsibility for making decisions.

Because in the permie mind decision = responcibility = consequences = fear.

[DimPrawn]

Generally, in the permie world you only get fired if you do something wrong.

By doing nothing you reduce that risk to zero.

HTH

[Francko]

'I speak as a former reasonably hard core techie who still enjoys dabbling from time to time',

he's proud of himself as he got MS Word to work on the fourth installation attempt

Milan.

He never went that far technically but he indulged in some intimate practice with his line manager*. Since that day he has "business" knowledge and believes that he adds value to business.

* Unfortunately that's quite a common practice in UK, I have hardly met people with genuine business knowledge

[BrilloPad]

one has only to read the whinging posts on here.

So why do you stay here if you don't like it? Isn't this a forum for supporting contractors?

[sasguru]

He never went that far technically but he indulged in some intimate practice with his line manager*. Since that day he has "business" knowledge and believes that he adds value to business.

* Unfortunately that's quite a common practice in UK, I have hardly met people with genuine business knowledge

I supported myself as a techie contractor for 15 years with no bench time apart from when I chose. You on the other hand are a terrorised mediocre permie, not good enough either to be a proper techie contractor nor clever enough to be a manager.
N'est pas?

[sasguru]

So why do you stay here if you don't like it? Isn't this a forum for supporting contractors?

Oh I like it. It makes me laugh all the time.

[Francko]

I supported myself as a techie contractor for 15 years with no bench time apart from when I chose. You on the other hand are a terrorised mediocre permie, not good enough either to be a proper techie contractor nor clever enough to be a manager.
N'est pas?

N'est pas vrais. Mois? Jamais. Ne voule jamais pas de devenir un gestionaire. Mais tu parles francais vraiment or seulement tu pretendes de parler comme tu pretendes de connaire le "business"? Mais vais te faire flambe', idiot!

[sasguru]

N'est pas vrais. Mois? Jamais. Ne voule jamais pas de devenir un gestionaire. Mais tu parles francais vraiment or seulement tu pretendes de parler comme tu pretendes de connaire le "business"? Mais vais te faire flambe', idiot!

And that is why you're such a loser