Agency regulation

[Euro-commuter]

You are just not important enough to warrant such an elite system.

Funny, a quarter of a million of us seem to be important enough to the Government for them to take one swipe after another at freelance working.

[TheOmegaMan]

Actually you are wrong, the agents don't need to be regulated they already are there is a huge raft of legislation around the conduct of employment businesses.

However if you feel that regulation should be in place, why should they pay for it, surely the only fair way is that contractors who wish to use a regulated agent should agree to a 5% levy on their rate going to the regulator.

Of course this means same cash to agent, some cash to regulator and less cash to contractor but then you get what you pay for in this world.

No, you do not pay for the FSA or the FSCS as investors. It is not the users who should pay for a market that is out of control. No let us follow the financial services model. Whoever's house it out of control should pay for proper controls. Voluntary regulation has not worked. We need imposed regulation from an independent body.

[boredsenseless]

No, you do not pay for the FSA or the FSCS as investors. It is not the users who should pay for a market that is out of control. No let us follow the financial services model. Whoever's house it out of control should pay for proper controls. Voluntary regulation has not worked. We need imposed regulation from an independent body.

Yes but these are bodies set up to protect consumers i.e. individuals from the might of large companies.

You however (either via ltd or brolly) are a company and such regulators do no exist to manage relationships between companies.

And once more we come round to the are you really 'in business' or just 'a hidden employee' argument.

Pointers to business

1) Exposed to financial risk
2) Negotiate contracts and grievances

Pointers to pretend-permie

1) Expect to be paid regardless
2) Expect others to come riding to your rescue if you don't like how its going

[shaunbhoy]

Pointers to pretend-permie

1) Expect to be paid regardless
2) Expect others to come riding to your rescue if you don't like how its going

And there you have Omygodman in a nutshell. A whining malcontent without the stomach or will to take personal responsibility for his situation. Like so many of his generation sadly. Always someone else to blame for their ills.

[lukemg]

You are just not important enough to warrant such an elite system to support what is effectively a group of plumbers on typewriters.

Love it ! Nice one DA and quite true, loving the entirely unjustified self-importance on here from BOS merchants thinking anything they ever do will make the slightest difference to anything. I would rank plumbers more highly, they have skills that don't become obsolete overnight !

[TheOmegaMan]

Yes but these are bodies set up to protect consumers i.e. individuals from the might of large companies.

You however (either via ltd or brolly) are a company and such regulators do no exist to manage relationships between companies.

And once more we come round to the are you really 'in business' or just 'a hidden employee' argument.

Pointers to business

1) Exposed to financial risk
2) Negotiate contracts and grievances

Pointers to pretend-permie

1) Expect to be paid regardless
2) Expect others to come riding to your rescue if you don't like how its going

But contractors are consumers. We are force fed the sh*te that oozes from every orifice of every recruitment agent. They are supposed to provide a service that is essential to the running of the country. Yet they lie, they cheat, they manipulate, they distort, they work to their own rules.

Legisilation and regulation is the only answer. Contractors cannot negotiate with agencies when the agent distorts and manipulates the market. There is no effective competition so there is no choice.

[shaunbhoy]

But contractors are consumers.

Aww diddums!
Dry your eyes mate, bwahahahahahaha!

[chicane]

But contractors are consumers. We are force fed the sh*te that oozes from every orifice of every recruitment agent. They are supposed to provide a service that is essential to the running of the country. Yet they lie, they cheat, they manipulate, they distort, they work to their own rules.

Do you really think that any other non-agency business you deal with will go out of their way to be honest, ethical and conformist at the expense of their owners/shareholders just to pander to your ideals?

If you want to be treated like a business, you might wish to start behaving like one. I'm fortunate that my current dealings with agencies and other businesses are beneficial to my own business. However, should this change for the worse in the future, I'd like to think I'll have the sense to change my own way of working (ie become employed) rather than expecting the rest of the business world to meet my ideals.

[TheOmegaMan]

Aww diddums!
Dry your eyes mate, bwahahahahahaha!

I don't need to dry my eyes mate. I will continue to lobby for agency regulation whilst you tend to your fruit and veg stall.

The seeds of destiny have been sown here. I think we are on the cusp of discovery.

[Churchill]

I don't need to dry my eyes mate. I will continue to lobby for agency regulation whilst you tend to your fruit and veg stall.

The seeds of destiny have been sown here. I think we are on the cusp of discovery.

You are Niall and I claim my £5.