Inside IR35 & CMS Payments - CMS refusing to reduce (50% of my actual salary)

**Paddy** · 31 January 2023, 11:33

Originally posted by splreece1978 View Post

Hi all,

I'm new to Inside IR35 arrangements but if I understand it, the Child Maintenance service don't care about deductions and will take the gross figure before any emp NI etc...

My question is, does anyone have experience of dealing with CMS when contracts end and they decline reduction in salary.... I had a £500 pday inside IR35 contract that ended in July22 (yep)... and My changes went in immediately and I've had declines to change since...

I'm uptodate and so any figures quoted are for new payments (not backdating).

I am perm employed at £40k per year and just received a letter stating my payments are £1400 per month.... that is literally 50% of my total gross salary.

Any one with any experience of this I would gladly take advice as we all know the inside IR35 net is horrendous so I didn't earn half of what CMS are assuming I earned previously and definitely don't earn it now.

(I supplied them with copies of my online HMRC PTA account showing the various contracts ending and only 1 FT paye contract now shows at £40k/.

How many kids is £1400 per month for? What does your ex do for a living?

**SueEllen** · 31 January 2023, 11:41

It would help if you could write in clear English.

Let me Google that for you - https://www.gov.uk/child-maintenance...ts-and-appeals

You should then Google Father's Rights Groups and contact them, as they should be able to give you more advice before you contact the CMS to complain then appeal as necessary.

**splreece1978** · 31 January 2023, 12:01

Paddy

Thanks for the quick reply, its 2 kids and she is part time admin work.

**splreece1978** · 31 January 2023, 12:03

SueEllen

I'm not sure I get your point.. what didn't you understand about the situation?

I thought being on a professional forum rather than a mumsnet or more public facing forum, that the responses would be void of most of the just petty backhanded pokes.

Please if you are responding, if you don't understand then ask for elaboration instead of just insulting as I am assuming you are a grown up.

**jamesbrown** · 31 January 2023, 12:14

You're posting in the wrong part of the forum, a common mistake made by n00bs. The clue is in the header, "All hope abandon ye who enter here. Seriously."

Mods, can we get this moved/copied to prof?

**splreece1978** · 31 January 2023, 12:15

Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post

You're posting in the wrong part of the forum, a common mistake made by n00bs. The clue is in the header, "All hope abandon ye who enter here. Seriously."

Mods, can we get this moved/copied to prof?

DOH! can i copy from here or should i redo elsewhere..?

**jamesbrown** · 31 January 2023, 12:19

Originally posted by splreece1978 View Post

DOH! can i copy from here or should i redo elsewhere..?

A mod will be along shortly.

They cannot move posts anymore, but that can close and copy over.

**Gibbon** · 31 January 2023, 13:23

Originally posted by splreece1978 View Post

Hi all,

I'm new to Inside IR35 arrangements but if I understand it, the Child Maintenance service don't care about deductions and will take the gross figure before any emp NI etc...

My question is, does anyone have experience of dealing with CMS when contracts end and they decline reduction in salary.... I had a £500 pday inside IR35 contract that ended in July22 (yep)... and My changes went in immediately and I've had declines to change since...

I'm uptodate and so any figures quoted are for new payments (not backdating).

I am perm employed at £40k per year and just received a letter stating my payments are £1400 per month.... that is literally 50% of my total gross salary.

Any one with any experience of this I would gladly take advice as we all know the inside IR35 net is horrendous so I didn't earn half of what CMS are assuming I earned previously and definitely don't earn it now.

(I supplied them with copies of my online HMRC PTA account showing the various contracts ending and only 1 FT paye contract now shows at £40k/.

They probably think you're playing the game as basically a SE worker, and deliberately lowering your income to then go back to the high income contracts. You say you are perm but a FT is not the same. They go on aggregate earnings so your new SA this year will show the dip and hopefully get you a reduction. You have to prove that the new income is long term a FTC isn't going to do that.

The question they will have is why is someone on circa 100k, suddenly on 40K.

BTW I ain't judging just theorising based on my own dealings.

**northernladuk** · 31 January 2023, 13:23

Originally posted by splreece1978 View Post

DOH! can i copy from here or should i redo elsewhere..?

We've just told you you need to ask questions in the prof forums.

Inside IR35 & CMS Payments - CMS refusing to reduce (50% of my actual salary)