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    #21
    Originally posted by Paddy View Post



    The causes WW1 were not the same as WW2. In my opinion Napoleon's conquests were a great contributor to WW1 along with the British, French and German expansion of their empires and fighting over the recourses in Africa
    Yes because proxy countries as a cause, empire expansion (Be it British/French or German) and genocide (Belgians/Armenian / non Aryan) are so different 21 years apart.

    https://historydaily.org/differences...d-world-war-ii

    There are similarities between the two wars. In both wars, a certain group of people were singled out for genocide. In both wars, certain empires were attempting to achieve world domination. The differences between the two wars are that, in the first one, it was more about domination of land and resources and in the second one, it was more about ideologies and creating a communist society.
    Arguably the first world war was the last large one that was driven by monarchies rather than governments, so ideologies were more likely to be the forefront.

    Sorry blaming the punitive treaty of Versailles is not enough to excuse Germany's behaviour.
    "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

    I want to see the hand of history on his collar.

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      #22
      Originally posted by saptastic View Post
      Whether you like him or not the most influential politician of a generation.
      No one has had a bigger effect on the politics of the UK for many years if ever
      B***** would not have been a consideration were it not for Nige.
      Originally posted by vetran View Post

      Yes because proxy countries as a cause, empire expansion (Be it British/French or German) and genocide (Belgians/Armenian / non Aryan) are so different 21 years apart.

      https://historydaily.org/differences...d-world-war-ii



      Arguably the first world war was the last large one that was driven by monarchies rather than governments, so ideologies were more likely to be the forefront.

      Sorry blaming the punitive treaty of Versailles is not enough to excuse Germany's behaviour.
      Agreed but don't exclude the British from genocide.
      "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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        #23
        Originally posted by vetran View Post

        you didn't prove me wrong I'm waiting for you to manage that one day, you just doubled down on your stupidity as usual.
        I really did mate. You compared a prime slot Nige show of 107,000 against a rolling news channel. I gave you the numbers for the prime slot BBC1 news show that has viewer numbers of 3.5m plus each day. The BBC1 10 o'clock show has figures of c.3.5m too.

        I'll let you work out whether 107k is higher or lower than 3.5m
        I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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          #24
          Originally posted by Paddy View Post



          Agreed but don't exclude the British from genocide.
          British Army, British east India company (etc) or the british population?

          Our Army was starting to improve but yes we had a long history of doing unpleasant stuff.

          The improvements were partially due to the Geneva conventions and the rise of organisations like the red cross and newspapers starting to ask why are we killing all these Natives?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Geneva_Convention

          The East India company was rather brutal.

          The British people were mostly not put in the same situation as the Germans & Russian people were that they had to rat on their fellow citizens based on their race or beliefs.

          "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

          I want to see the hand of history on his collar.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Whorty View Post

            I really did mate. You compared a prime slot Nige show of 107,000 against a rolling news channel. I gave you the numbers for the prime slot BBC1 news show that has viewer numbers of 3.5m plus each day. The BBC1 10 o'clock show has figures of c.3.5m too.

            I'll let you work out whether 107k is higher or lower than 3.5m
            BBC1 is not a 24 rolling news channel, if we follow your logic if a presenter wears a Rolex watch its the same as owning the Rolex company.

            Tripled down on stupidity.
            "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

            I want to see the hand of history on his collar.

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              #26
              Originally posted by vetran View Post

              BBC1 is not a 24 rolling news channel, if we follow your logic if a presenter wears a Rolex watch its the same as owning the Rolex company.

              Tripled down on stupidity.
              I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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                #27
                Originally posted by vetran View Post

                BBC1 is not a 24 rolling news channel, if we follow your logic if a presenter wears a Rolex watch its the same as owning the Rolex company.

                Tripled down on stupidity.
                You are aware that BBC News and BBC 1 show the same news programs in prime time news slots like the 10?
                "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

                  You are aware that BBC News and BBC 1 show the same news programs in prime time news slots like the 10?
                  This is Vetran you're talking about, he's not aware of much at all unless it's posted in the Wail
                  I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

                    You are aware that BBC News and BBC 1 show the same news programs in prime time news slots like the 10?
                    indeed hence the Rolex comment.

                    You are aware that BBC1 is not a rolling news channel?

                    "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

                    I want to see the hand of history on his collar.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by vetran View Post

                      indeed hence the Rolex comment.

                      You are aware that BBC1 is not a rolling news channel?
                      Are you really this dim? No one said it was. Can you read?
                      I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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