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MPs slam ‘flawed’ IR35 and call for clamp down on ‘wild west’

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    #11
    Originally posted by Whorty View Post



    So, if there was an appetite to resolve the unlimited liability of a sole trader, and remove the risk of the agency being liable for the sole trader not paying the correct tax, then many contractors could go this route and bypass the umbrella - thus removing the totally unnecessary and pointless umbrella and it's non-value add costs?
    Well with a likely growth in the gig economy and people freelancing the Government need to fix the liability and taxation issues.


    The disguised employment idea isn't going to last long now UBER has broken its duck.
    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Whorty View Post
      So, if there was an appetite to resolve the unlimited liability of a sole trader, and remove the risk of the agency being liable for the sole trader not paying the correct tax, then many contractors could go this route and bypass the umbrella - thus removing the totally unnecessary and pointless umbrella and it's non-value add costs?
      Yes (but that's a lot of stuff and there are vested interests in not doing it).

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        #13
        Originally posted by northernladuk View Post



        There is also something around the agent being responsible of the sole trader doesn't pay their taxes properly which is covered under the debt transfer bit but isn't clear.
        Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post

        Yes (but that's a lot of stuff and there are vested interests in not doing it).
        Absolutely ... and much easier to keep throwing sticking plasters at the problem ... but the flexible economy is going nowhere, and there is always some dodgy shyster looking to rip the unsuspecting off ... just needs a competent UK government to fix this issue.

        Wow, what am I thinking ..... UK ... competent government ... fix problems .... I must have nodded off for a moment there
        Last edited by Contractor UK; 7 July 2022, 17:44.
        I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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          #14
          Originally posted by Whorty View Post



          Absolutely ... and much easier to keep throwing sticking plasters at the problem ... but the flexible economy is going nowhere, and there is always some dodgy shyster looking to rip the unsuspecting off ... just needs a competent UK government to fix this issue.

          Wow, what am I thinking ..... UK ... competent government ... fix problems .... I must have nodded off for a moment there
          Are you ok? Do you need an intervention?

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            #15
            Originally posted by ladymuck View Post

            Are you ok? Do you need an intervention?
            Must be time for my medication
            I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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              #16
              Originally posted by Whorty View Post



              So, if there was an appetite to resolve the unlimited liability of a sole trader, and remove the risk of the agency being liable for the sole trader not paying the correct tax, then many contractors could go this route and bypass the umbrella - thus removing the totally unnecessary and pointless umbrella and it's non-value add costs?
              The snag is umbrella companies very much do have value-added - for HMR&C, if no one else!

              Remember, HMR&C and related civil servants hate contractors and the self-employed with a passion. As far as they are concerned, we are loose cannons and, very likely, tax dodgers to boot!
              Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ here

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                #17
                Originally posted by Weirdo Whorty View Post

                Must be time for my medication
                I think you are way past that from your posts, maybe a rubber room?
                Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by vetran View Post

                  I think you are way past that from your posts, maybe a rubber room?
                  Only for my S&M nights
                  I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Whorty View Post
                    but the flexible economy is going nowhere
                    The problem is the gig economy covers a wide range of players, at one end there is us who are happy to have less rights but with more flexibility in how we bill, and the other end of the scale the likes of deliveroo drivers who want the rights that are being denied them (these are generalisation as i know there are many who sit somewhere between these two extremes)
                    Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
                    I can't see any way to do it can you please advise?

                    I want my account deleted and all of my information removed, I want to invoke my right to be forgotten.

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