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Should the UK pursue self sufficiency for environmental and security reasons?

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    #31
    Which reminds me.

    https://www.ft.com/content/ba5aac70-...2-afd7d570f7c7

    UK ministers are scrapping a flagship £1.5bn environmental initiative launched only last year to upgrade England’s homes with better insulation and low carbon heating, following problems with its administration.
    Can this Tory scum deliver ANYTHING of value?
    First Law of Contracting: Only the strong survive

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      #32
      Originally posted by DoctorStrangelove View Post

      Aye bring back snook and Woolton pie, it'll put hairs on our chests.

      Apparently the uk was self sufficient in 1850, having starved millions to death in the Irish potato famine.

      The population at the time was 17.9 million.

      Now it's 66.6 million.
      Possibly its been missed by all the Europhiles and Xenophiles but when the going got tough the countries got a banning. Food security would mean we are less open to blackmail.

      100% including all variety is probably impossible but as some people have mentioned we were 80% self sufficient 40 years ago yet are 20% less now. 80-90% with diverse imports and food exports would be a good position.

      The Netherlands is clearly capable of growing crops in quantity in a similar climate and country. We just need the will.
      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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        #33
        Originally posted by DoctorStrangelove View Post

        Apparently the uk was self sufficient in 1850, having starved millions to death in the Irish potato famine.
        Ohh Wiki suggests an alternative view- think we should resurrect this part though

        it had become illegal to give poor people aid
        Improvements in agricultural technology, transportation, and the wider economy meant that for most of the 19th and 20th centuries, severe hunger receded as a problem within the United Kingdom. An exception occurred in the 1840s. Known as the Hungry Forties, various problems affecting food production resulted in millions suffering from hunger all over Europe. In the early 1840s the UK was relatively less affected than the rest of Europe. Yet thousands of working-class people still starved to death, including in England, Scotland and Wales, in part as it had become illegal to give poor people aid.

        In Ireland, which was part of the UK at the time, the Great Famine struck in 1845, and close to a million died of hunger and related disease

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          #34
          Originally posted by DonaldJTrump View Post

          Ohh Wiki suggests an alternative view- think we should resurrect this part though




          There is a difference between self sufficient and suffering a famine. They aren't mutually exclusive. Famines are frequently due to external factors e.g. Potato blight.

          Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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